Just going to tag @Diddums as I believe he does that sort of thing, some sort of building/facilities management role for a freeholder or something IIRC.
How to market yourself as a drifter?
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Just going to tag @Diddums as I believe he does that sort of thing, some sort of building/facilities management role for a freeholder or something IIRC.
As flattered as I am that you'd think of me, this guy's attitude on here is very vividly demonstrating why he's not had a job for longer than 18 months, and suggesting him to anyone would be too much of a risk to my reputation.
Good luck though.
Quit long term plans in order to focus on not quitting long term plans. I am honestly baffledThanks, that is very much appreciated. Not super interested in building management exactly. It's ok but tends to be quite insular. Not that that's a bad thing, just tough to market to. There's always takeovers/layoffs/companies moving around etc. can get hard to keep up with if you're not "in it"
That's funny because I got around that industry a while through good references. But you do you mate pphhh
Thanks, that is very much appreciated. Not super interested in building management exactly. It's ok but tends to be quite insular. Not that that's a bad thing, just tough to market to. There's always takeovers/layoffs/companies moving around etc. can get hard to keep up with if you're not "in it"
That's funny because I got around that industry a while through good references. But you do you mate pphhh
Well, one of us is a laboratory and technical operations manager with 20 staff under him on one of the UK's most prestigious sites and earns a very good salary.
The other can't hold a job down for more than 18 months and is asking for advice on a forum, and despite being older than me is behaving like an irritated child.
Yes, I'll do me thanks, doing you clearly isn't working
Literally taking no prisoners today!Well, one of us is a laboratory and technical operations manager with 20 staff under him on one of the UK's most prestigious sites and earns a very good salary.
The other can't hold a job down for more than 18 months and is asking for advice on a forum, and despite being older than me is behaving like an irritated child.
Yes, I'll do me thanks, doing you clearly isn't working
You're setting yourself up for failure.
You need to complete short term goals that build up to something greater than the sum of their parts.
By always quitting you're just repeating the same loop of constantly starting over. Which is why you're not getting past the basic jobs into a more advanced role.
Its also why you are in loop of getting bored and losing interest. Because a basic job isn't holding your interest long term.
Don't have to stay in the same job, you could be a contractor and build up experience that way, yet always moving on, and getting more experience each contract.
Soldato
ZING!Yes, I'll do me thanks, doing you clearly isn't working
Prestigious.. in building maintenance. LMAO! No wonder you made it personal. Does your maintenance plan cover the building-sized ego? Hahah you'll get thereWell, one of us is a laboratory and technical operations manager with 20 staff under him on one of the UK's most prestigious sites and earns a very good salary.
After you weigh up the pros and cons, my situation doesn't favour sticking anywhere long-term. It's either one dead end job or the next. That's been the only way to increase wages and experience. They don't offer advancement, there's no opportunity for skills development, and the alternative is the dole. Even ex-offenders get a chance at vocational-based training.
So try not to be judgemental. You don't know what I've tried to get out of this. It's very easy for me to also be judgemental on other marginalised parts of society who have more help out there for them, and that's something you have to resist, because it gets you nowhere. I am talking about marketing, not a crash course from complete strangers on basic principles.
Contracting? You mean starting a business from nothing. ..OK better off leaving it there then.
Contracting barely involves running any sort of business, in reality, it's just a different form of employment with less job security, short-term roles and typically higher pay.
If you keep on job-hopping then contracting might be the thing to look at if you have a skillset that is in demand, that part isn't clear though.
(Why have you created a second account btw? If you've forgotten your password then just reset it else you'll likely end up with one or both of them nuked)
Prestigious.. in building maintenance. LMAO! No wonder you made it personal. Does your maintenance plan cover the building-sized ego? Hahah you'll get there
After you weigh up the pros and cons, my situation doesn't favour sticking anywhere long-term. It's either one dead end job or the next. That's been the only way to increase wages and experience. They don't offer advancement, there's no opportunity for skills development, and the alternative is the dole. Even ex-offenders get a chance at vocational-based training.
So try not to be judgemental. You don't know what I've tried to get out of this. It's very easy for me to also be judgemental on other marginalised parts of society who have more help out there for them, and that's something you have to resist, because it gets you nowhere. I am talking about marketing, not a crash course from complete strangers on basic principles.
Contracting? You mean starting a business from nothing. ..OK better off leaving it there then.
Its not being judgmental. Its just pointing out the observable pattern in what you've described.
You get better job from building experience and skills. One way to do this fast is short term contacts. or staying longer in jobs. But you have to be proactive.
But (and this is being judgmental) you've already given up, dismissed suggestions that you haven't even properly considered. That does seem to be a trait.
If what you keep doing isn't working, you have to change what you are dong. But if you are unwilling to try new things. You've created a catch 22 for yourself.
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Prestigious.. in building maintenance. LMAO! No wonder you made it personal. Does your maintenance plan cover the building-sized ego? Hahah you'll get there
Sorry mate you'll need to speak up, I can't hear you over the sound of your unemployability.
Just to be clear, you could've had some really good advice on here, loads of people have found success in life thanks to the advice given on here, and I've helped or employed quite a few people from here myself. There's a reason people tag me in these threads.
If you managed to stop being so offended and actually realise that people were trying to help you, you might have actually had some good input. Unfortunately you're so preoccupied with being a dumbass that you've now burned those bridges before even crossing them, quite the feat.
I suggest you change your ways if you want to improve your life, or you'll still be drifting when you retire.
Soldato
I could not echo this more. You jumped to being defensive, but I don't believe anyone in here was casting judgement. More a case of trying to understand the situation to be able to potentially give the best suited advice.
As soon as I asked a question on your background, you got defensive and gave out attitude.
As Diddums has said, this place has some really very good advice and has helped so many people, but in order for that to happen you need to drop the attitude and ego.
There are some extremely experienced people on this forum believe it or not
I didn't pick up on the attitude and tried to be helpful to the guy but the @Diddums beef is amusing now, Diddums has clearly done well in his field and knows that sector well and obvs this new dude hasn't come across too well initially and has since just doubled down on it which was probably the wrong way to go!
Caporegime
You tried dancing around the agencies singing Under the Boardwalk?
Soldato
He hops accounts just like he does jobs.
FML, I came back to this thread to see if I could actually help out as I'm feeling a bit bad for the guy.
I don't have enough info to go on, when asked some questions he immediately got all defensive instead of helping us help him
@Manray answer the questions dude, you could actually get some decent advice on here
I don't have enough info to go on, when asked some questions he immediately got all defensive instead of helping us help him
@Manray answer the questions dude, you could actually get some decent advice on here
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FML, I came back to this thread to see if I could actually help out as I'm feeling a bit bad for the guy.
I don't have enough info to go on, when asked some questions he immediately got all defensive instead of helping us help him
@Manray answer the questions dude, you could actually get some decent advice on here
Dude, you're getting soft in your old age.
Also in b4 that's what she said.
Man of Honour
I could not echo this more. You jumped to being defensive, but I don't believe anyone in here was casting judgement. More a case of trying to understand the situation to be able to potentially give the best suited advice.
As soon as I asked a question on your background, you got defensive and gave out attitude.
As Diddums has said, this place has some really very good advice and has helped so many people, but in order for that to happen you need to drop the attitude and ego.
There are some extremely experienced people on this forum believe it or not
Yeah, this.FML, I came back to this thread to see if I could actually help out as I'm feeling a bit bad for the guy.
I don't have enough info to go on, when asked some questions he immediately got all defensive instead of helping us help him
@Manray answer the questions dude, you could actually get some decent advice on here
We often get people here asking for career advice, especially if they've not managed to find a focal point or a career path as such - and almost without exception they are confrontational, cagey and tetchy in their responses. In other words, people who just scream "UNEMPLOYABLE" to me as a hiring manager.
Diddums has indeed directly and indirectly found work for quite a few people here, perhaps the OP should heed his advice.