How would you fix digital advertising?

The ad, which was created to mimic the site content, served up another page, as adverts have a habit of doing. This page then served up its own set of adverts, scripts, pop ups etc. which at some point in the 'adception' chain resulted in malware ending up on the pc that was generating pop ups, fake warning messages etc. even with all browsers closed.

I used malwarebytes anti malware to remove it. I don't remember the version number.

I'm 100% confident that's where it came from as I got panicked phonecall about all hell breaking loose when he clicked on one of the stories. When looking at it with my dad later, he showed me the 'story' but it was a disguised advert. The pc only gets used for news and the BBC sport websites, something I'm confident of because of checking the history, which they don't know how to erase.

Thanks for explaining, I think you've confirmed however that it wasn't the regional news site and that particular ad slot which was responsible for the malware, although it was the start of the process. The same could be said for any website and link though, if you just keep clicking on links you will inevitably land on something bad if that is your intention, it doesn't matter where you begin.
 
There was no 'keep clicking on links'. Once the ad was clicked, everything else that transpired was from scripts running. I don't think I ever made the assertion the news site itself served up the malware.

One thing I will agree with though, which is a big part of why people run adblockers - The same could be said for any website. Because so many adverts are served up by third parties that the content provider has limited or no control over, those adverts could send you anywhere, absolutely anywhere. As soon as you click on it, knowingly or otherwise, you're in the wild. You could get presented with anything. The original content provider has no idea where you've just been sent and whether it's good or bad.

I guess I misunderstood your "adception chain" comment as your parents clicking on further 'relevant articles' once they arrived at their click-through destination. This circumstance can be avoided on regional news sites or other publishers by simply implementing a whitelist of verified advertisers. It obviously depends on the ethics of the publisher in question.
 
For me it's either free news (funded by government) OR subscription model

Do you not think there is a risk of bias with state funded media? If something is privately owned then typically their only loyalty is to their shareholders. Furthermore there's no such thing as free, it will just be incorporated into tax or from something else being cut. You have to pay somehow.
 
I absolutely despise the ad business model with a passion. It's destroying the web feeling once again just like it did with popups back in the XP days.

I get that :p I'm just trying to understand if there is a way to make you change your mind about digital advertising without completely gutting the industry.
 
Except the scripts I am talking about are embedded in the ads themselves, scripts to allow "'programmatic advertising'" could quite easily be run from the website and not some third party.
I would also say tragget ads are mostly pointless too. If I look up something does not mean I want to buy it even if I look up the price/spec of it. To get targeted ads we give up to much to get to little.
Not sure you can get "quantifiable results" from ad spend it is very hard prove someone purchased something due to an ad they had seen. The best way would be to ask where they heard about the item when they register it and that does not need does not need you to be tracked.

Unfortunately that's not the case. Programmatic advertising is entirely reliant on scripts and multiple parties. The average banner ad you (don't) see on the internet will involve the publisher, an SSP (exchange), a DSP (buying platform), and an adserver - they all need to talk to each other. You might think targeted ads don't work on you but from the industries experience they work very well. You absolutely can get quantifiable results from ad spend, you can use varying attribution models and econometrics. Your suggestion that the best way would be to ask the individual which marketing communication triggered the purchase decision is actually one of the most unreliable methods, some forms of advertising are much more subconscious than others and therefore you would have huge skews towards certain channels. Furthermore people are notoriously unreliable and often just click the first thing they see.
 
This is why I use ad block plus. Nothing but horrible gambling adverts that take up the majority of the screen when I browse. I have ZERO respect for intrusive advertising like this. Especially since I don't wish to see or look at ANYTHING gambling related.

That's called a 'page skin'. Companies responsible for those include InSkin, JustPremium, SublimeSkinz and more. I agree that it's a bit of an eyesore, but I wouldn't personally say that it's particularly disruptive. It doesn't affect the content you're reading in any way. You also mention the subject area that the banners are advertising - if you had an option to disable gambling advertising, and the industry was cleaned up, would you be more open to turning off your adblocker?
 
@billysielu I'll grant you that the 970x250 banner at the top does push down the content by 250 pixels... But that is solved within a couple of notches of the mousewheel.
 
Actually in the mirror group those homepage takeovers are almost always sold directly. They're pretty hard to get availability for because they perform quite well

Interesting to know. The Liverpool Echo is owned by Trinity Mirror who also own a huge amount of other regional titles. These titles would usually be amongst those quoted if you asked InSkin for a site list.
 
Interesting, so sites like that don't get their ads via SSPs / exchanges and sell directly to ad agencies?

This used to be the way across most inventory. These days sites typically struggle to sell their inventory because most buys are done programmatically. Programmatic has grown by thousands of percent over the last five years and 'direct buys' from agency > publisher are becoming a drop in the ocean now.
 
Has there been any more advancement of this OP? Do you still want us to remove ad blockers?

@Marmot

I know you loved this thread (you have the second largest number of replies) but I don't think there's much more to add.

It seems that the majority of us are open to monetization via advertising, provided that it is carried out responsibly. The view is that right now it's no where near responsible.
 
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