How would you open a safe with conventional tools?

In all seriousness.

If there was no urgency (Or, erm, risk)

Large diameter disk cutter, many disks, Lots of patience!

Just cut the front off, just behind where any hinges/locks might be.

(Valuable stuff is likely to be pushed to the rear of the safe)
 
Had a break-in at work about 6 years ago. The burglars tried to drill their way through the top of the safe and used loads of bottles of Pepsi to cool the drill bits!
We reckon they had a good 4-5 hours or so, and got this far:

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They almost pierced the top section, but unfortunately for them, the inner safe (where the large amounts of notes were kept) was located elsewhere in this model. I would have loved to have seen their faces after all that effort!
 
personally I would have left it and sold it on eBay as a surprise lot... might of had a few people willing to take a punt if you claimed it was a company's main safe.
 
if it was still in the floor shotgun cartridge empty into lock cough light and cause its encased opens ;)

drilling it is one hr.

sides often has sand in or other substances.depends on age of safe really.
 
Tungsten carbide drill bits and a diagram of where the locking mechanism/piviot points are.

Open door and keep safe (once repaired)..

Doh, too late..
 
Adam_151 said:
MAPP wouldn't be hot enough surely?

Would need OA with the correct torch for cutting i would have thought?
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its 2000 degrees - thats hotter than any kind of steel.
OA is hotter though - i only suggested mapp gas cos its cheap and you can get a hand held blow torch.
 
aardvark said:
its 2000 degrees - thats hotter than any kind of steel.
OA is hotter though - i only suggested mapp gas cos its cheap and you can get a hand held blow torch.
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What the actual what.

You want to use a MAPP blowtorch to try and melt your way into a safe?

The flame is X temperature yeah.

But to draw a parallel with hardware sold on OCUK, large chunks of metal are used as heatsinks and I'll be dammed if a blowtorch can put out enough energy to melt the metal of a safe even locally with the rest of the metal in the safe soaking away the heat.

Oxygen + fuel cutting doesn't melt the metal, it heats it up with a hot flame yes but the cutting is done by burning the metal away with excess oxygen.

That's why an oxy-fuel torch would work and a blowtorch wouldn't.

I have heard of safes designed to defeat even that by having water cooling in the metal so you have immense problems heating up the metal to a temperature it can be burnt at.
 
campbell said:
Who puts 2ps in a safe?
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Where I work, all cash goes in the safes. 1p coins to £50 notes, it all goes in the safes. I doubt if any thief would bother stealing the "copper" coins (worth less than £3 a kilo) when there are sacks of £1 and £2 coins and bricks of notes, but it's company policy that cash goes in the safes.
 
Hotwired said:
What the actual what.

You want to use a MAPP blowtorch to try and melt your way into a safe?

The flame is X temperature yeah.

But to draw a parallel with hardware sold on OCUK, large chunks of metal are used as heatsinks and I'll be dammed if a blowtorch can put out enough energy to melt the metal of a safe even locally with the rest of the metal in the safe soaking away the heat.

Oxygen + fuel cutting doesn't melt the metal, it heats it up with a hot flame yes but the cutting is done by burning the metal away with excess oxygen.

That's why an oxy-fuel torch would work and a blowtorch wouldn't.

I have heard of safes designed to defeat even that by having water cooling in the metal so you have immense problems heating up the metal to a temperature it can be burnt at.
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yeah you're probably right - i've only ever melted small bits of metal with it.
 
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