How would you react to this (salary-related)
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This is my only fear, really. The only thing stopping me from sending this email!
I dont know how to explain this without giving details that i dont want to, but believe me that's not the case. We're both in our early 20s at the complete bottom rung of this industry's ladder (which treats people at the bottom notoriously badly). He came to us after being out of work for 2 months. Basically what i'm trying to say is that there's no way in hell there would have been any discussion of the salary. He would have been told it, and that would have been it. I know for absolute certain that was the case.
As for my pay review, i'm not sure. All i know is that in my contract offer letter it states i go up to B after 6 months (which is what i've just got), and then in another 9 months i will go up to A.
I've drafted up an email (which i'm trying to decide to send or not) and i've concentrated on these aspects.
Absolutely, but he has 6 months experience doing the same role as me at another company. I have 6 months doing the same job at this company. Because most of what we do is internal (i.e. talking to people within the company 99% of the time) i feel my experience is more relevant.
Ho hum.
i have usually found that people coming in get more than current staff at a similar level unless the pay structure was very rigid with not much of a band to be moved about in.
suck it up, if you dont like it look to work somewhere else
suck it up, if you dont like it look to work somewhere else
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train the other guy badly then he will get sacked and you will get a rise!
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Are you actually training him, or are you just showing him your company specific procedures? If you are actually imparting knowledge about new concepts that he could use at another company ie you know more than him about the whole sector then I'd be in at the GM. If you're showing him company specific procedures then I don't really think it's 'training' and I think you're just stuck with earning less. The best way to move up the ladder is almost always by moving company / department. Looks like he's played the game better than you.
A similar thing happened to me years ago. I found a list of the entire professional team's salaries on a shared drie. I realised I was paid significantly less than someone who I was better than (but he'd been there years longer) - i did nothing about it until I got hammered at the Christmas party and told the MD what I thought about it. I got a massive pay rise thankfully but it wasn't very professional and could easily have worked against me!
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My company forbids employees discussing renumeration for this very reason.
Leave it
shouldnt have been discussed anyway. there will ALWAYS bee some dumbass who gets paid more than you think is fair, thats life. As long as you have the money to live within your means then be contempt and dont focus some much on the competative side, its not a competition.
If you work hard and can live happily thats its own reward. Showing your whiney "he gets more but we are the same, i even teach him stuff" wont make you look big, smart or clever
shouldnt have been discussed anyway. there will ALWAYS bee some dumbass who gets paid more than you think is fair, thats life. As long as you have the money to live within your means then be contempt and dont focus some much on the competative side, its not a competition.
If you work hard and can live happily thats its own reward. Showing your whiney "he gets more but we are the same, i even teach him stuff" wont make you look big, smart or clever
I doubt he would be 'looking big, smart or clever' by raising this. In fact he'd be a fool not to. Some companies keep all salaries secret and some from even talking about their salaries (almost child like secrets) to each other because then they have to deal with it when there's descrepencies in the pay structure (which the employer has caused by creating this, not the employee - hence they should sort it out), which is what this sounds like.
Approach your boss, tell him what you know and be armed with the facts, don't do this unprepared and be in the right frame of mind. If your boss tell you to sod off then so be it, but given the circumstances you've provided I doubt they would - wonder how many other employees they do this to aswell.
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I was in a similar position last year. I trained up a girl to take over from me so i could move on to a better role. However this girl turned out to be absolutely useless, she just wasn't interested in the work and spent a lot of time on the internet so myself and someone else had to spend a lot of time finsihing off her work while simultaneously doing our own jobs. Anyway, to cut a long story short, this girl had a query with her payslip and freely showed it to me and it turned out she was earning around £12k a year more than me. So, i went to see my boss, not to demand a payrise but to express my displeasure with the situation. I ended up getting a £6k payrise, obviously it didn't take me up to her level, but it helped.
You accepted the job and knew the position you'd be in, you can request a pay review but if you kick up a stink about this you'll be out on your ear. Frankly it WAS enough money, now you're annoyed purely because someone else held out for more and got it.
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I wouldn't walk into the boss's office and demand the money but I would mention it at my next review.
tbh he might have just had moe experience or was on a higher wage pereviously. Either way he secured a better deal in the interview. Not his fault.
tbh he might have just had moe experience or was on a higher wage pereviously. Either way he secured a better deal in the interview. Not his fault.
(or more) so looking at £360 to come back to me