human teleportation

bhavv said:
And you can base a theory without any hypothesis.
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Although procedures vary from one field of inquiry to another, identifiable features distinguish scientific inquiry from other methods of obtaining knowledge. Scientific researchers propose hypotheses as explanations of phenomena, and design experimental studies to test these hypotheses. These steps must be repeatable, to predict future results. Theories that encompass wider domains of inquiry may bind many independently derived hypotheses together in a coherent, supportive structure. Theories, in turn, may help form new hypotheses or place groups of hypotheses into context.
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The root of the problem - the hypotheses you're talking about are progressive, not defined within the same process. The hypotheses that follow a theory are investigations into the progression of that theory, an examination as to that theory's consequences when applied to certain models. You've now come full circle and are quoting evidence that proves yourself wrong. Congratulations, you're a scientist.
 
I suppose you dont know the definition of the word 'may'.

There are many different types of Scientific Theories, and most of them do not need to be based on a hypothesis.

However, theories can be based on hypothesis as well, but this is not always the case.

But new hypothesis require knowledge and understanding from existing theories in order to explain and give reasoning for them.

A hypothesis in science is ALWAYS a testable conjecture. It is not an idea, speculation, or theory, Scientific theories however can be based on ideas and speculation, so long as they can form testable hypothesis. But they do not require hypothesis to make that theory in the first place.
 
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LordSplodge said:
Only works on the quantum level and because you know the position of both particles and not speed you aren't violating the uncertainty principle. It does however violate relativity because technically they are travelling faster than light.
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It's not just a speed / position interchange though, other variables such as spin.
As well as relativity being violated due to instanteanous (fast than light) information exchange I also thought the uncertainty principle was violated because you measure one particle after entanglement and can immediately infer information about the other particle, leaving you free to perform an alternative measurement on the second particle and thus knowing more about it than you should.
Correct me if that's wrong.
 
Castiel said:
I find it hard to accept that you have attained a science based degree yet fail to see what EVERYONE here is telling you. One more link for you to peruse:

http://www.accessexcellence.org/LC/TL/filson/writhypo.php

Anyway, do you think we can return to the thread now and discuss Teleportation, and not your inability to accept when you are mistaken?
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Well, from your link:

What Is a Real Hypothesis?

A hypothesis is a tentative statement that proposes a possible explanation to some phenomenon or event. A useful hypothesis is a testable statement which may include a prediction. A hypotheses should not be confused with a theory. Theories are general explanations based on a large amount of data. For example, the theory of evolution applies to all living things and is based on wide range of observations. However, there are many things about evolution that are not fully understood such as gaps in the fossil record. Many hypotheses have been proposed and tested.
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Meaning that hypothesis are proposed to test parts of theories that are not yet understood. So what I am saying is true that hypothesis can be created from already existing theory to test it further.

I'm not mistaken, I would just say that both views are correct. You can from a hypothesis from an already existing theory, and you can form one without, however you definitely need scientific background before any hypothesis, and that background will come from already existing scientific theories.
 
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bhavv said:
Well, from your link:



Meaning that hypothesis are proposed to test parts of theories that are not yet understood. So what I am saying is true that hypothesis can be created from already existing theory to test it further.

I'm not mistaken, I would just say that both views are correct. You can from a hypothesis from an already existing theory, and you can form one without, however you definitely need scientific background before any hypothesis, and that background will come from already existing scientific theories.
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Yes theories can produce more hypotheses, or indeed questions, but as someone said before it is a progression, not an absolute, and a series of hypotheses would have been used to forward the theory in the first place.

Theories do not just materialise out of thin air, even if this thread is about Teleportation, they all have some form of hypothesis or question at their core.

Observation-->Hypothesis-->Theory-->Law is the generally accepted progression.



One last reference in the vain hope you'll understand:

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-a-theory-and-a-hypothesis.htm
 
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I already looked at that link before, it is very difficult to believe anything written about science on such a site.

Also, as some of the comments state, Evolution as a theory is actually based on a lot of assumptions which cannot be tested. There are a lot of things that Evolution and other theories state that have never been, or can they be written into a testable hypothesis.

Also:

A theory will often start out as a hypothesis -- an educated guess to explain observable phenomenon.
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This is completely wrong because a scientific hypothesis is NOT just an educated guess.
 
Jokester said:
It IS an educated guess, if it wasn't, it would already be a theory!
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For a hypothesis to be put forward as a scientific hypothesis, the scientific method requires that one can test it.

An educated guess alone may not be an hypothesis is it cannot be tested, it would be speculation, and a speculation is a theory (not scientific theory).
 
bhavv said:
For a hypothesis to be put forward as a scientific hypothesis, the scientific method requires that one can test it.

An educated guess alone may not be an hypothesis is it cannot be tested, it would be speculation, and a speculation is a theory (not scientific theory).
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Your inductive reasoning is weak :o
 
You two double teamed this thread.


It was so interesting.

Now its just pancake.


-_-


Nice threadkill.


I hate when someone just has to take things so seroiusly and attack someones post because they are SO SURE there wrong.


Then have a forum thread war about it.



Castiel im backing you up on this btw.

Bhav saying things are impossible is stupid.

Everythings possible till you can prove it otherwise in my opinion we have no proof that its not possible and none that it is.

So untill we try and figure a way of prooving as such we cannot make any real judgements you dig?
 
All of your memries are stored in your brain tissue and the parts of the brain that store that information.



Transportable tissue once broke down and moved and reassmbled would essentialy still be there.

So in theory they should retain there memories but as we have no proof or way of prooving this as of current we cant say.




Who knoes :) one day we shall attempt something like this creative people will always go the distance.
 
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