I am now poor now also :(
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Soldato
Wall mounted a 46" one of these last week. When fed with a HD source it did look fantastic.
Soldato
I thought the signal was digital....if it is then cable quality shouldn't matter at all...
tests have shown that 1080p signals can degrade over longer distances, but generally you're correct.
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yup hdmi, you either get a signal or not as it's digital. Best get down to poundland for an hdmi cable.
Yep, however, for example, you may be fine doing 5m with a poundland, but need <insert expensive make here> cable for 10m
no, not for HDMI you won't. Its digital, the quality of that signal cannot degrade unless it passes through a filter or a converter of some sort (DAC for instance). Only analogue signals degrade over distance due to attenuation on the line.
The only reason 1080p (or any digital signal) will appear to degrade over distance is because the data rate will slow down on the line. But this will happen in any lead be it QEDUBERLEAD or PoundStretcher.
The only reason 1080p (or any digital signal) will appear to degrade over distance is because the data rate will slow down on the line. But this will happen in any lead be it QEDUBERLEAD or PoundStretcher.
Soldato
Butters, you are mistaken.
If your theory was correct why do many people need to upgrade their aerials to receive digital reception?
If your theory was correct why do many people need to upgrade their aerials to receive digital reception?
Soldato
VERY NICE!!!!
Congrats!
Congrats!
Oh come on. Aerials are analogue and use Coaxial cable which has attenuation on the line, hence, loss. They upgrade their aerials to receive a digital airwave signal, thats all. In fact, there's the answer right there. This digital signal travels hundreds of miles and hardly degrades at all. How on earth people think 10m of HDMI over 5m of HDMI has the slightest bit of difference in it, I'll never know.
Everything in life is analogue, there is no 'pure' digital signal. All digital signals are analogue signals converted either at source or at receiver.
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So you must also think if we string a few cat5's from London to New York and slap hdmi down it we will get a picture
Richie.
Indeed ! Which is why, eventually the poundland cable will gimp out before the <insert expensive hdmi cable> will.
I purchased a number of different 10m 'poundland' hdmi cables to start with for my panny pt-ae1000e pj. Corruption, sparkles, you name it. I then went and forked out for <insert expensive cable here> 10m hdmi and everything was fine.
The poundland cables worked fine at 720p and even 1080i@50/60hz, but 1080p@50 was a no go. I even sent the 'poundland' cables to someone on here for free, and he even had problems with them.
Richie.
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You would get a picture, yes, but it wouldn't be great due to the distance. Also, Cat5e cable is liable to line noise due to its makeup. Each twist in the pair will create a phase shift on the line and introduce noise. HDMI cables do not have this problem.
If you put an HDMI cable from london to NY you'd receive a better picture than the same signal down a CAT5 cable.
If you put an HDMI cable from london to NY you'd receive a better picture than the same signal down a CAT5 cable.
Soldato
Very nice TV, congrats.
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Fair enough, like I say, makeup is everything. HDMI is what? 10Gbps and HDTV is only transfered at 4Gbps?
The ONLY thing to look our for on an HDMI line is if it's construction is copper or fibre.
We'll say then that copper should have a maximum line of 10m (more if its OFC and sheilded) and fibre = how ever long you like
The other thing to check would be to make sure the cable is 1.3HDMI and not any other variant.
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Soldato
Nice! I'd go for a normal HDMI cable myself tho...
I thought the whole point in twisted cable was to reduce induced noise? Well, essentially to try and cancel it out.
I am no electronic engineer so I am probably talking poo.
btw, nice tv