I am now poor now also :(

Twisted pair cables are designed to reject line noise from adjacent cables, phase errors are prevented by using complex line encoding. Which is why you can transmit gigabit ethernet speeds over cat5 without any problems at all. Ethernet cards are designed to add the correct line encodings.

Digital transmission is a lot more complex than simply 0 and 1 though. Just as important is the digital clock. Both transmitter and receiver need to be in sync, and when they are not you get jitter. Longer and cheaper cables have a tendancy to make jitter issues worse.

With Audio and Video jitter based errors are generally igored, and the errored signal is fed into the DACS. This is because real time applications cant 'wait'. A pause in say an 'audio' datastream would be heard as either a short period of silence, or a pop etc. But a small bit error will be a lot less noticable.

This is equally true of video data. A few bit errors would likely go unnoticed. But with cheaper cables eventually the error rate gets so high that the TV (or whatever device is receiving the signal) will eventually say enough is enough and just fail to connect.

Computers are different, they have several choices, first is to try and buffer the data, so as it comes in, its reclocked and the jitter is reduced, then it can checksum the data and if it is errored it will simply ask for a retransmission, as data accuracy is more important than the timeing.
 
Hello to you all

My first post on overclockers forums :)

I have just treated myself to Sony 40 X 3500 & Toshiba HD-EP30 :) including Qed hdmi-p cable full 1080P

So i will now have a empty sack on christmas day :(


Bad news item being return as faulty item :mad::mad::mad:

Reason for return , Clouding , smearing
 
Too bad shaney :( i`d of thought sony would have sorted the damn cloudy issues by now with all the problems they had with the 40w2000 .......(main reason i went for the 40d instead)
Goodluck getting it sorted though.
 
Update , new Sony 40X3500 on christmas eve all working , so so so happy , pictures to follow soon , this is a killer LCD , no problems , some great results with blu ray & HD dvd , even standard dvd is amazing

I do find that Blu ray films & HD dvd are a touch grainy
 
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I've had an el cheapo 20meter cable which works with 1080p perfectly.

Simply put your wasting your money on branded HDMI cables. So who here has a Monster USB cable :) LOL
 
The old analogue cabling rules simply do not apply to digital signals.

The quality of speaker wire for example, i.e. its resistance value, the material its made from, how well its shielded etc etc can be important in the final sound outputted to the speaker. This is because the signal being sent is used as it is recieved, i.e. its an analogue signal going into an analogue device (speaker magnet).

Digital signals use electrical impulses as their transport medium, but the impulses are processed at either end of the cable. The signal is therefore either perfect or flawed and this will depend on the cabling.

For me, i now follow the rule "if the cheapest cable does the job i need, i.e. no corruption, then thats all i need"

So i always start with a poundland cable, if it works with no corruption then im getting the best possible signal as all the original data is being transferred successfully. if however its not good enough, either because its too thin for its length or bad shielding is introducing CRC errors into the datastream, then I will go and buy the next cheapest "branded" cable I can find.

So far this has not failed me and my god it feels better handing over a fiver for a cable rather than £80.

Nice TV BTW ;)
 
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