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david_129

david_129

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I thought i'd ask anyway see if anyone would like to shed some light.

Behaviour:

Playing games is fine for around an hour, then randomly i get a bluescreen. It then bsod'd after playing a game (i.e. turning off game) screensaver came on then, bsod.

looking at the stop messages:

They seem quite generic, code 0x00000124 , hal.dll seems to be causing it.

I've looked at a lot of things, crucial m4 256 ssd is up to date fw wise, pny reference nvidia 580 has the latest drivers, ram is stock speeds.

My temps are a little high, but even when i run prime95 it never bsods. It even gets up to 98 degrees on load (so i'm working on getting a new cooler and reseating etc).

Could anyone perhaps suggest me what i might do to try and troubleshoot this? i'm a little lost as it's been working ok for a while.

Really appreciate any help and obviously if you have anyquestions, ask away
 
98 degrees? I thought it would shutdown at those temps. Way too high, don't load it until you've reseated the cooler with fresh thermal paste.

Prime95 can stress a CPU hard, but you need to select SmallFFTs I think. The blend doesn't heat things up much at all. Try LinX for stability testing, that will test the CPU cooling! Don't run it until you've sorted the cooler though.

Your problems could well be overheating or unstable CPU clock. We need more info on your spec and overclock.
 
98C is definitely too high for the CPU temp. I just so happened was running prime95 on my Q6600 overclocked to 3.6GHz on 1.5v vcore this morning...with my Silver Arrow cooler, I only hit 68C max.
 
Okey dokey!

So i'll try another reseat tonight, on my cpu i thought it was best to do the 'line method' for the paste, so tonight i'll try the 'pea' method.

Other information then,

Bit Fenix Survivor
i7 2600k @ 4.6Ghz
Asus P8Z68-V Pro Mobo
8Gig Ram Kingston HyperX
Crucial M4 256 SSD
9TB data
PNY Reference Nvidia 580
Corsair HX 750
CPU Cooling Corsair H50 with apache black fan.

Is there anything else i should be looking for with regard to the bsod? any troubleshooting i can perform?

With so many components i'm just a bit lost tbh
 
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david_129 said:
So i'll try another reseat tonight, on my cpu i thought it was best to do the 'line method' for the paste, so tonight i'll try the 'pea' method.
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Just spread it very thinly with a credit card or similar before you place the cooler plate.

Make sure the cooler is fitted properly with the pump spinning at full speed continuously. The fan can be temperature (PWM) controlled.
 
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nkata said:
Make sure the cooler is fitted properly with the pump spinning at full speed continuously. The fan can be temperature (PWM) controlled.
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At 12V the H50 pump is at about 1300rpm and the stock H50 fan is 1700rpm.

You can check the speed both are at with various programs or even the BIOS if it lets you.
 
124 BSOD?

Mine will constantly 124 with not enough VCORE.

Sort the temps out then perhaps look at upping voltage till it remains stable. Do NOT do this until you sort the cooling out however. What volts are you running at 4.6? My 2600K needs a large jump from 4.5 to 4.6. if I were you I would aim for 1.35V at whatever clock is stable. (Mine will happily tick over at 4.5Ghz/1.35V Max)

For reference I can be IBT stable but BF:Bad Company 2 will crash my system at the same clock/voltages.
 
You will likely need a fair amount of volts for 4.6ghz - I need over 1.35 volts.
My system and another i5 system I have built will BSOD running prime or in gaming when not stable, however runs as a pc fine - which is great but can be misleading you to think its stable.

Try an offset overclock - it will help with your temps and the future of your cpu with high overclocks. I need + 0.06 to get stable @ 4.8 (plus few other settings changed - asus guide on hardforum I think) but that runs much higher than 1.35 @ 100% load - but much lower when idling or not @ 100% load - beware your temps obviously at 100% load
Offset overclocking is the Way Forward for definate!
There is an Asus offset overclocking guide on line someone has done - their settings, that you can use to get a good idea of what to do.
I think 1.35 is being overly cautious but its your own risk - lots of people running much higher than that with no problems So Far :)
My idle vcore is between 1.064 and 1.152

Simple thing to consider make sure your fan faces the right way! Also try the stock H50 fan - I tried 2 Noctua fans on my H80 and although it was much quieter there just wasnt sufficient airflow to cool properly!
I am sure the boot would fail if you didnt have your water pump on properly?
 
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Simple thing to consider make sure your fan faces the right way! Also try the stock H50 fan - I tried 2 Noctua fans on my H80 and although it was much quieter there just wasnt sufficient airflow to cool properly!
I am sure the boot would fail if you didnt have your water pump on properly?
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Some tests have shown some of those Noctua fans to be incapable of inflating a black rubbish bag which apparently means less than about 5-6CFM. Still they're right about them being quiet :p

You can't really connect the pump wrongly, a header is a header after all but you might be undervolting it unintentionally.
 
Ok i'm going to go ahead and admit it, i made a mistake, i have a A50 not a H50... , sorry fellas, although i can imagine much of the advice is still relevant. I should have known better.

Do you guys think this BSOD issue could be the temperature...? i've done windows memory diagnostics and they have come back fine. I have a crucial m4 ssd and it's been absolutely fine up until now, the only thing i thought it might be is the motherboard bios version? i got it from OCUK about 2-3 months ago and it's a little out of date so i'm going to try doing that tonight too.

Will check the voltages and report back, i've been advised that for 4.6 i need to be at 1.365 and i'm currently at 1.368.. can't see that making much difference mind you.

Thanks guys you've been really helpful so far.
 
98C??? omg, can yo ublame it for blue screening??? That must either be overclocked like a biatch, or your case has insuficient cooling.....
Maybe turn your clocks down a little, get a better gpu cooler, or get a decent case.

Fully overclocked, to the very limit, and on a hot muggy day, gaming for arond 3 hours straight, my card has never been over 60C. on an average day, it idles at around 29C, and hits around 40C under full load, heavy gaming on max res....
because i have a decent cooling case.
2x 120mm fronts at 69cfm each
1x 120mm top at 69cfm
1x 120mm rear at 69cfm
1x 120mm side at 69cfm.
and thats without watercooling
 
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High IBT test which on my system is 2GB of memory.

I can push more memory through it and be IBT stable also, BC2 will either freeze or CTD.
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Right. What cpu and clocks? How much memory in the system? How many GFLOPS in the GFLOPS column?

At risk of hijacking the thread - I'm looking for concrete examples of IBT passing but something else e.g. a game crashing.
 
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