I concede (RE: X360 VGA vs Component)

NokkonWud · 8 Jan 2007 at 21:28

Kreeeee said:
Not really sure why I posted this other than I imagine McDaniel would love to take the opportunity to say "I told you so".

And me, considering I've said Component > VGA since the launch in 2005

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Kreeeee · 8 Jan 2007 at 21:34

NokkonWud said:
And me, considering I've said Component > VGA since the launch in 2005 .

Yes but you don't deserve the opportunity

wiiija · 8 Jan 2007 at 21:39

I prefer component over VGA on my screen aswell, I used VGA for ages but your right, component offers MUCH better contrast and colour.

Kreeeee · 8 Jan 2007 at 21:40

Only problem I have now is that I need a component switcher that doesn't lose quality.

wiiija · 8 Jan 2007 at 21:57

Buy the one from JS Tech, its £55 but one of the best out there.

DDave · 8 Jan 2007 at 22:01

wiiija said:
Buy the one from JS Tech, its £55 but one of the best out there.

Another vote for this, you can get it here.

Kreeeee · 8 Jan 2007 at 22:02

DDave said:
Another vote for this, you can get it here.

Aye I found it but for that price I'd like 3 rather than 2 component inputs.

AS_Dodger · 8 Jan 2007 at 22:09

For me the VGA is a bit sharper than component. Colour wise they're pretty identical. So VGA wins, yes?

Not entirely. The component connection isgetting more play at the moment as I've gotten back into a couple of Xbox 1 games (Halo 1 and Ultimate Spider-man) and these WILL NOT play on VGA.

Incidentally, neither will Astropop or Feeding Frenzy from Arcade. No great loss, but ridiculous that this should be the case.

DDave · 8 Jan 2007 at 22:13

Just found something called XCM Multi-Component Cable which is a component cable with connections for Xbox 360, Wii, PS3 and PS2.

Thought it might be of interest to you as I doubt it's that expensive.

Wyrdo · 8 Jan 2007 at 22:21

VGA has always been better for me but then it also depends on the screen you're using. I prefer the sharper image.

Kreeeee · 8 Jan 2007 at 22:24

DDave said:
Just found something called XCM Multi-Component Cable which is a component cable with connections for Xbox 360, Wii, PS3 and PS2.

Thought it might be of interest to you as I doubt it's that expensive.

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/7129/xcmccash4.jpg

I worry about the quality of the cable though...

wyrdo said:
VGA has always been better for me but then it also depends on the screen you're using. I prefer the sharper image.

Like I said it's not the screen.

wedgie · 8 Jan 2007 at 22:28

Kreeeee said:
I worry about the quality of the cable though...

What a life you must live.

Scarylion · 8 Jan 2007 at 22:28

AS_Dodger said:
Incidentally, neither will Astropop or Feeding Frenzy from Arcade. No great loss, but ridiculous that this should be the case.

both work fine on vga for me

Kreeeee · 8 Jan 2007 at 22:36

wedgie22 said:
What a life you must live.

Right...

Metalface Mark · 8 Jan 2007 at 22:39

Kreeeee said:
Read threads before posting

Aye and there's really no legitimate reason for it really.

I was just being mischevious

The component does give much more vibrant colours than the vga, but i find the vga gives a smoother picture on my 40w bravia, its a shame, i would like to see the vibrant colours with the smoothness of the vga, i guess we would have to wait for the hdmi 360 to get that combo though.

Kreeeee · 8 Jan 2007 at 22:44

InwardSinging said:
I was just being mischevious

I could never dislike you anyway, I like your name too much. Almost as much as MakeShiftWings.

InwardSinging said:
The component does give much more vibrant colours than the vga, but i find the vga gives a smoother picture on my 40w bravia, its a shame, i would like to see the vibrant colours with the smoothness of the vga, i guess we would have to wait for the hdmi 360 to get that combo though.

That's precisely what I'm waiting for. There's no reason why it won't but then again there was no reason for VGA to have such washed out colours.

sparkymark75 · 8 Jan 2007 at 22:58

I also perfer the sharpness of the VGA, however despite the tweaking, I cannot get rid of the "plastic film" effect. There's apparently a fix http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=209954, has anyone tried it?

My 40" Sammy F71 is only 2/3 weeks old so I've not got the balls at this stage to tweak the service menu settings. Yet

NorthstaNder · 8 Jan 2007 at 23:39

I tried component tonight as a result of this discussion and i still prefer VGA.

Test game was Viva Pinata for obvious reasons!

If anything the colours on component are TOO strong, and VGA's are just right for me, but a lot of this is all down to personal preference.

the other thing i don't really like about component is the way you lose a bit of the picture (5-10% didn't someone say earlier in the thread?)

sparkymark75 · 9 Jan 2007 at 00:15

mparter said:
My 40" Sammy F71 is only 2/3 weeks old so I've not got the balls at this stage to tweak the service menu settings. Yet

Well, that lasted long :rolleyes:

After reading that thread decided to have a look at the white balance settings in the service menu. The good thing is you can set the sub-brightness and sub-contrast per input so I was able to adjust them both and only affect the VGA input

I've reduced the sub-brightness, was 129, now 44. The sub-contrast was 160, is now in the 60's.

Picture on my 360 looks far better now, maybe not as vibrant still as the 360 but not looking washed out anymore

Kreeeee · 9 Jan 2007 at 00:24

NorthstaNder said:
I tried component tonight as a result of this discussion and i still prefer VGA.

Test game was Viva Pinata for obvious reasons!

If anything the colours on component are TOO strong, and VGA's are just right for me, but a lot of this is all down to personal preference.

the other thing i don't really like about component is the way you lose a bit of the picture (5-10% didn't someone say earlier in the thread?)

Yes, standard overscan is 5-10% which is always accounted for so no text is off the screen. I do find Component overblown but that's easily adaptable, the VGA connection is harder to tweak to satisfactory levels. After fiddling I'm fairly happy with VGA but could do with slightly more vibrant colours after adjustment to remove the washed out look.