I found an OCUK scalper...

[slim01]

Hey guys, found a guy on a well know social platform selling gpus at around +50% inflated ocuk prices in my area.
Guy was stupid enough to post pics with OcUK tape all over the boxes

Has 3060's for £550
3060ti for £650

So... Question is, do I name and shame? Not usually a grass but scalpers are scum

 

[slim01]

Hmmmm... Well can't be assed going though all those to find out if they were.

So ocuk are fine with scalpers if you buy from main site? The prices they were in stock at right now I guess are just normal prices when theyre in stock?

 

[slim01]

I would just straight out name and shame, no hesitation at all. If they get hate then they deserve it in my eyes. If you want to play that game then you have to expect it.

Main hesitation is because I know how strict these forums are. I listed a 1080 for what I thought was a half descent price (was a good deal cheaper than what was on auction site) and got banned from mm for profiteering (it was about 20 quid more than what I paid for it IIRC, so a loss after postage).

I was accused of scalping and yeah it indeed feels bad... Esp after community here is so awesome. And rightly so I guess.

Guessing I can't post a pic here or name the marketplace either?

 

[slim01]

Well, got an awesome nvme deal on here (1tb crucial p5 nvme for £75, check it out), and not doing anything as, well, jesus his prices are actually, good? Even here 3060's are well over £600... Has the world actually gone mad or what? £600+ gets not a xx60ti, xx70, xx70ti, xx80 or xx80ti we would have got only a few generations ago... We've jumped like 5 price bands.

I can only hope the situation normalises at some point. I'm hoping Intel (sigh) make a wise decision to sell Arc gpus cheap to gain traction in this rather screwed market. I think we all know chances of intel being the heroes are slim, though there is an opportunity for them.

 

[slim01]

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scalpers are scum
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got banned from mm for profiteering



slim but dim

To the few laughing you're only making yourselves look dim tbh, and only people it's "backfired" on is you.
A) read the post: card would have been sold at a loss after postage. (doesn't take a big brain to calculate how "excessive" the pricing could have been). Oops.
B) wouldn't expect everyone to have taught business English as I did for years, but you can Google the word. By the MM term of "profiteering" every retail business in world, including even charities are profiteering. Profiteering is, in fact, more widely used for eg... people selling aids drugs to aids victims at an inflated price during an aids crisis or selling illegal guns to a country, whether or not they forced them into a war.
C) due to the ironic (some might want to google that) reason I'm not naming/shaming anyone.
D) clear to see from this thread alone there's confusion/divided opinion against the mm rule.

Regardless, its not for us to argue who sells what at what price, esp on ocuk; their t's and c's, their shop, their forums, they can call it what they want and price stock as they want.
We don't know what retailers actually paying for these gpus but it must be really, really bad when ocuk seem to be the only people trying to help by doing decent deals and only via MM.

 

[slim01]

Paying more for a card that's had a year of usage than it cost brand new isn't a "great deal" no matter how you try and dress it up. I think it's fair enough that if you want to partake of the relatively safe and secure environment that OcUK provide for sellers (relative to the scammer-filled wasteland of Ebay anyway), you shouldn't be able to take the pee in the process. Nobody's forced to sell anything on here after all. Plenty of other places to go scalp.

Get what you're saying but if someone offered you a 3080 fe for say £500, you still wouldn't class that as a deal? Even though those cards are like £1200+ and your £500 wouldn't even get you a 3060 elsewhere?

Hard to discern what a "good deal" is at the moment but I'd be over the moon for a 3080 at rrp, regardless of if used or not. Most of us would, I think?

 

[slim01]

Agree with you, nothing wrong with what they are doing. Something is worth what people are willing to pay for it. If some fool wants to pay over the odds for something more fool them, your an idiot if you don't make money when you have the chance, some people are just salty about it.

You're right 86Dan would have been an idiot to turn down £1200 for a 3070 (dude how did you even...), the issue is more with scalping companies/scalpers buying all the stock. It shouldn't be a BUSINESS (because it's literally buying something with the sole intention of ripping someone off), but it is a very lucrative business. By the sound of it, 86dan didn't buy with the intention of ripping someone off (not a scalper then) neither did he rip someone off because they offered him the money, presumably knowing the 'value' of the item and so not been conned.

Bots checking out all the gpus quicker than humans can? Personally, I can't agree that's fair game. But you're right, people shouldn't buy them.

Another example: Everyone hates ticket wardens, but then, people shouldn't park where they shouldn't park right? I got charged £80 to 'park' on a street when my motorbike broke down for 10mins. Didn't WANT to stay on the road, but didn't NEED to go to a side street either. Fair or no?

 

[slim01]

I thought I remembered this incident differently, so I went back and checked and you're being a bit economical with the truth here. :edit: or perhaps just not fully understanding what happened and/or why.

You made a GPU for sale thread in the MM when every man and his dog were listing, or thinking of listing their GPU to take advantage of the insane value of second hand cards. There were many instances of people selling cards for profit, especially those that had been bought second hand in the first place. As moderators, we have a duty of care for those that deal inside the MM, which includes ensuring that the spirit of the place is adhered to, in order protect the community. We've must have brought 50+ users who listed GPUs in to FCD - banning them temporarily to prevent a deal continuing - to ask them for proof of their purchase price. You didn't tell us your purchase price, so you didn't continue to sell it here. It has nothing to do with how much you say you paid vs how much you were charging, we needed some sort of evidence to satisfy our justified suspicion that you were making £££ on an item. Your ban was lifted swiftly once the issue was concluded. If you had shown us evidence, you absolutely could have charged what you paid + postage, no problem.

I listed the card on here because UNLIKE every other man and his dog I was lucky enough to get a 3070 on your mm deals which I thanked you for and I'll thank you again, I still have it and despite the weird TV on the side of it and rgb vomit, I like it.

I also mentioned in that thread I bought the gpu during the crisis, as I stupidly (like many others) sold my 2080 over a year ago, expecting to get a 3080 at launch, got fed up with waiting and then got the 1080, sold eventually at loss after fees +post.

I asked for the listing to be removed before it was even looked at because I didn't want to break the rules, and was told they were selling for 260 quid I think you said, which is by my terms peanuts, for something that was at the time selling for £450 elsewhere.

One thing you've got to understand is just because these cards are selling at crazy prices second hand it doesn't mean people haven't ALREADY paid over the odds. Regardless, as I said at the time, if you see any more 1080s for 260 I'll have them, as imo is a bargain, having sold one for more than that BEFORE the pandemic. Currently buying parts for a pc for the Mrs, but not paying £350+for a 1080 or £500 for a 1080ti (basically a 3060) - please, let me know where these £260 1080s are so they can take my money