I Hate Ordering RAM - A Rant

UPDATE

Corsair Vengeance behaving a lot better.

Installed and booted straight away to stable 1333 from SPD.

Went into BIOS and selected XMP and rebooted.

Boots straight away as advertised - 9,9,9,25 @ 1.5V.

It's running as 2T which is as advertised. Is there any benefit in trying to run it at 1T - does it make much difference is what I mean.

Will Memtest using unmodified XMP tomorrow and let you know.

Cheers,

Nigel
 
Well, the posts regarding the workings of RAM were lost on me, but I understand your point and I'm glad to hear that you found RAM you can be happy with. :D
 
you put 1.6v through a 1.35v ram kit?

You trying to kill them or?

If 8Pack says it's fine then I don't see why it will kill it, unless people have suddenly gained more knowledge and experience than him overnight. I do feel sometimes 8Pack must feel like he's beating a dead horse. I've got 1.65V running through my Samsung Green's and they haven't skipped a beat.

Performance wise I do see 1-2 frames increase in fps when benching. :)
 
Mate, don't expect memory out of QVL will work with it's advertised specs as this is a point where you expect 100% compatibility, whenever QVL is not 100% memory list.

Asus motherboard are a bit picky regarding to memory requirements, so choosing this vendor you might expect some fuss. Change it to Gigabyte, MSI or AsRock to loose that requirements. And don't forget the CPU controls memory (by integrated memory controller), so as far as it's AMD CPU, it supports maximum 1866 itself, with no o'c tricks by motherboard (followed by AMD webpage: 1866 supported with 1 DPC (DIMM per Channel) in single memory slot motherboard designs).
 
I had a similar experience with a gigabyte board and corsair xms ram, would not post with more than two sticks installed. Contacted gigabyte and got the old "it's not on our compatible list" routine but like the OP said gigabytes list was old and had more chance of finding some rocking horse poop.

Contact corsair, "oh try this vengeance memory, its designed to work with sandybridge". So rma'd the memory and ordered the vengeance (and even then I had to wait weeks for the "low profile" version to come on back order to stop any CPU cooler interference).

Still wouldn't work in the gigabyte board. So rma'd the gigabyte board and got an asus. Worked first time (although again wasn't on asus compatible list as it was as out of date as gigabytes), but at 1333 not at the memory's supposed speed of 1600. Had to force it to run at 1600, fortunately it doesn't seem to mind.
 
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I can honrstlyvsay after building many rigs with many motherboards and ram combos and never had any compatability issues.

Had two sticks of crucial ballistix die on me ironically but never anything other than that. I've always considered it a bit if a myth. Just bad setup usually..
 
I can honrstlyvsay after building many rigs with many motherboards and ram combos and never had any compatability issues.

Neither had I previous to this build.

Had two sticks of crucial ballistix die on me ironically but never anything other than that. I've always considered it a bit if a myth. Just bad setup usually..

:rolleyes:

Best quit the day job then I guess..

:p
 
RAM is finicky as hell. Anything not on the QVL is not guaranteed to run at all. Hence ltos of shops not giving you any issue about swapping out RAM for a different set instead of just a like for like replacement.

Worst stability I had was Asus Striker II extreme with 4 sticks of Corsair 1600mhz. When they were both super new and crap. 6 sticks out of 4 sets were faulty - which would only show up after 7-18 hours of memtest. Retailer was nice about it though, since they realised I was testing it for them, so they just kept swapping sticks till I got some that would at least be stable at 1333mhz with more than one stick in it.

Then asus update the BIOS and it works at 1600mhz....Best few weeks of my life.....

Other than that, always buying Asus/Corsair combo (when new) Ive had no problems, I don't think. Had random sticks of other RAM be DOA/non booting with certain boards.

I think its just certain brands favor testing/matching with specific other brands. Since they can't match everything. Hell, even the same brand of ram doesnt say it will work with another set of the same ram, from the same batch (although it normally does)
 
Ram ram ram, the pc builders nightmare!!!!

I have found over many years of looking at ram, that top brand ram ie corsair, kingston, crucial, geil, Gskill, patriot, ect ect sell many kits but like anything else you get what you pay for, most of the ram on the sticks are samsung or hynix all binned at diffrent speeds and sold on to the likes of kingston, corsair ect to be built into specific kits offering certain speeds and timings.

all the ram sold in kits is from previously binned IC's (ie runs at 1600mhz) lots, now if you produce 1 million ram chips and you randomly test and the speed is 1600 at 9.9.9.9.22 1t there's no way all of that million will run that speed. some will fail, some will go tighter, company's will selective bin all high end IC's for top dollar ram. yet we have Samsung green which loves the volts and can reach great speeds cheap as chips, but do all the sticks manage the same speeds? some are no doubt better than others.

this is what you pay for in high price ram, its already been tested and binned to run high speed. Samsung green can be a lottery did you get 2 good sticks or did you get 2 that run as stated or higher but not as fast as your mates 2 sticks of the same stuff from the last batch!

some makers of ram claim higher speeds, but what board did they test it on? what bios? it becomes yet another lottery.

anyone remember BH-5 awwwsome stuff loved volts, tight timings yet it took me 4 sets to find 1 set that would go beyond expectations. just like binned CPU's guaranteed to overclock to 4.6g will be higher in price, same goes for high speed ram, the specially binned stuff comes at a high price cause its pre tested. but even then you do get failures. and that where a reputable company like corsair and others will rma and exchange the faulty ram.

unlike abudabu ram with gold heat spreaders, flashing lights and claiming massive speeds on the well know auction site, yet i cant find the manufactures web site mmmmm lol

if it dont work for you at the claimed speeds send it back! simples!
 
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