I have a strange problem with my PC, I have asked tons of people but to no avail. Maybe you could he

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So basically how it all started... I bought a new PC (wasn't very good at PCs back then) in 2011 so I could play Battlefield 3. I loved it very much at the start. 2 or 3 months or so after release I started to realize that I didn't exactly have it as everybody else. I figured this out mostly by watching videos. **** I even thought just average players were hacking. So what was the difference between me and everybody else? Well my guns were just really inaccurate, that was the best way I could describe it back then. It was just really hard to describe.

Eventually I found out about overclocking. And WHOA! Everything changed. I overclocked to 3,3 first and it was really good, i realized that it wasnt really there yet and tried 3,5 and WOW what a change, it was amazing (aka how everybody else has it, ALL THE TIME) I could finally own everyone like I should have from the start. but my cpu couldnt handle that so I bought a cooler and it was amazing...

For about a week.. Then everything started to get worse again... So i tried overclocking even more and it was good.. Then after a while it got worse again, Repeat until my cpu couldnt handle more overclocking. People thought i was crazy and it was some pseudo effect. No I just know that it wasn't. I was a really good player, I was even playing in one of the top teams in NA at that point and consider myself to be one of the 100-200 best. I even became good friends with #1 and #2 on overall PC hiscores so I know that I was a good player, **** maybe I could have been the best? (this is just my ego speaking sorry). Anyways a bit after that I stopped playing cause I couldn't be arsed to deal with it anymore. This was like at the end of 2012.
So what have I tried and where am I at now with my conclusions? I have either tested or changed out everything in my PC, tried changing monitor, reinstalled windows, and a lot of stuff basically. and the thing that is the most weird right now is that it seems that whenever I change something out, it's normal for a period of time, then it just starts going back to being bad again. It's so weird. I have a theory right now that it was my motherboard affecting the PC parts or memory somehow and with my new motherboard + cpu my memory still has memory left of it being bad? (something like that).

You could just say, Why didnt u buy a new PC? Well I could have but I didn't wanna spend my money at the times I thought about fixing it, I am neither very rich as I am currently finishing my last year in high school and I live pretty poor so I almost fully support my mom with all the money I get for being in school and stuff.

So anyways, I now have a pretty good idea of what the problem REALLY is. I played a lot of league and dota and not until I started playing League on my mac I realized what it was. (Yes it was quite great, doing better on a mac than a PC, kind of stupid really.). I think it is some kind of input delay, or just a delay as to where i press any key or do any action in the game, it just gets a little bit delayed and ****s everything up basically. No it's not ping really, it's something else and I have no idea how to fix it. (It's not my internet btw thats the problem, im sure). I don't have any FPS issues, memory issues (i think, it could be the memory?), i dont need to reinstall windows. It's not happening randomly, it's basically all the time where the guns feel inaccurate or my abilities are activating slower than they should in "MOBA-Games".

I was confident that it was something in my PC or something ****ing it all up and I probably still think that but as I have changed everything (except for that memory part I mentioned where i changed memory before motherboard + cpu) but I have no idea now honestly. It's so close right now to being normal but it's just not there yet, this is my last try ever and I really hope I can get an answer here.

Sorry for making this a bit long but remember this is supposedly a SUPER RARE problem that apparently nobody knows about from what i've seen so i need to tell almost everything. Thank you in advance.

PC SPECS if you want that.
Radeon HD 6950 2 GB, Intel i5 4970k ,CX600W bronze 80+ power supply ,logitech G500 ,Qpad MK-85 keyboard ,128 agility SSD ,500 GB harddrive ,Benq monitor, MSI gaming motherboard, 8 GB xms3 RAM
 
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It's probably in your imagination. It's definitely NOT a "weird" ghostly effect from your components interacting. :)

If overclocking the CPU helps then probably your minimum FPS are too low for competitive gaming. The best thing to do is to turn the graphics quality and resolution down ;)

If it's not your imagination and your FPS are OK then you might be sensitive to input delay. Make sure to use a wired keyboard/mouse/controller and look into getting a faster monitor (refresh rate and input lag).
 
Long post is long. Only thing I can suggest is to make sure v-sync is off as that can add a bit of input lag. Perhaps maybe consider trying out G-sync/Freesync as well, although that will require a new GPU and monitor.

Which Benq monitor is it? I have a friend with a monitor that has a 10ms response time and I notice a bit longer delay compared to my 2ms monitors in terms of input lag.
 
Possibly PCI latancy issues? Try running LatencyMon from here:

http://www.resplendence.com/downloads

If you get any bars (other than the bottom one) hitting red then you might have pci latency issues. possibly. You can check in the app what drivers it's related to, but it may well be a hardware issue.

Run it anyway and report back, see if it brings anything up.

also I hope you have the windows pagefile turned on. It does strange things to apps when you turn it off, yet people insist it makes your computer faster. lol.
 
It's probably in your imagination. It's definitely NOT a "weird" ghostly effect from your components interacting. :)

If overclocking the CPU helps then probably your minimum FPS are too low for competitive gaming. The best thing to do is to turn the graphics quality and resolution down ;)

If it's not your imagination and your FPS are OK then you might be sensitive to input delay. Make sure to use a wired keyboard/mouse/controller and look into getting a faster monitor (refresh rate and input lag).

I am not "sensitive to input delay". Trust me when I say this, it's not me, it's not me whatsoever. I have tried switching monitors with little difference made.
 
I am not "sensitive to input delay". Trust me when I say this, it's not me, it's not me whatsoever. I have tried switching monitors with little difference made.

It's not a criticism, some people are more or less annoyed by small (few ms) delays appearing on screen.
 
I am not "sensitive to input delay". Trust me when I say this, it's not me, it's not me whatsoever. I have tried switching monitors with little difference made.

Possibly PCI latancy issues? Try running LatencyMon from here:

http://www.resplendence.com/downloads

If you get any bars (other than the bottom one) hitting red then you might have pci latency issues. possibly. You can check in the app what drivers it's related to, but it may well be a hardware issue.

Run it anyway and report back, see if it brings anything up.

also I hope you have the windows pagefile turned on. It does strange things to apps when you turn it off, yet people insist it makes your computer faster. lol.
Yeah i did that test and it appears my computer is able to handle it. I believe I have pagefile turned on, I did actually try to turn it off before I did a windows reinstall some time ago, no difference there.

As I said in the post earlier, the best way I can describe it is that EVERYTHING is delayed on my screen somehow, it's not exactly input lag, but it is sort of. Like when I was playing BF3 and BC2. The guns felt different depending on the situation my PC was in for example with the overclocking. Honestly though at first my guns were barely even usable, it was quite ridiculous.

Long post is long. Only thing I can suggest is to make sure v-sync is off as that can add a bit of input lag. Perhaps maybe consider trying out G-sync/Freesync as well, although that will require a new GPU and monitor.

Which Benq monitor is it? I have a friend with a monitor that has a 10ms response time and I notice a bit longer delay compared to my 2ms monitors in terms of input lag.
Not sure which monitor it is but it has the numbers 22000 or something. I have tried with and without v-sync and I have tried capping fps at 60. It does feel different from what i usually have but it's not nowhere near perfect (or normal for every1 else as I like to say)

It's probably in your imagination. It's definitely NOT a "weird" ghostly effect from your components interacting. :)

If overclocking the CPU helps then probably your minimum FPS are too low for competitive gaming. The best thing to do is to turn the graphics quality and resolution down ;)

If it's not your imagination and your FPS are OK then you might be sensitive to input delay. Make sure to use a wired keyboard/mouse/controller and look into getting a faster monitor (refresh rate and input lag).

Well it's just something.. I have played on other PCs and as I said I played League on mac and everything was perfectly fine. I don't think I am sensitive to any input delay. I'm sure it's the PC or game itself or whatever. I'm 100% sure at this point. Do you even realize how many times I have questioned myself, lol... Yeah a couple of hundred times :p. I just answered your thing twice.
 
Sounds like vsync lag.

That's one huge post with very little information.



Describe the problem.




Try disabling vsync, or enabling triple buffering.

I assume Ati cards have this too, I've only used nVidia for years. (triple buffering)

-edit, I started typing this before you posted your latest post..




Have you tried a fresh install of Windows on another hard drive, to rule out any 3rd party tool etc. Some keyboard/mouse drivers can cause odd problems.
 
Sounds like vsync lag.

That's one huge post with very little information.



Describe the problem.




Try disabling vsync, or enabling triple buffering.

I assume Ati cards have this too, I've only used nVidia for years. (triple buffering)

-edit, I started typing this before you posted your latest post..




Have you tried a fresh install of Windows on another hard drive, to rule out any 3rd party tool etc. Some keyboard/mouse drivers can cause odd problems.

Yes my bad for that, I should have mentioned all the things I have tried but it's so many things that I can't really remember it all. Yes I have tried playing without my SSD and windows on HDD, windows on SSD with and without HDD. (Btw i bought the SSD after i got the PC). I tried installing drivers for my keyboard recently and couldnt find any on qpads website. As for mouse drivers I am not sure. As for triple buffering I believe you can enable/disable that in some games settings so I'm pretty sure I have tried with or without it. Some time ago I got to use my dads mouse and it turned everything to perfect but then as I said, it became worse again, then i switched back and it became perfect for like a day.. It sounds so stupid because its easy to say Im just getting used to it. But I just know that It's not that.

edit: As I said I can't describe the problem better than that, it's basically that when I do an action in my game or when an action happens it's delayed somehow, but it aint ping... Ping doesn't affect everything, this does somehow. And as I said it makes the guns feel really awkward, plastic and just really inaccurate. I suppose you could say that they feel "loose", nobody would know though as far as I know nobody has experienced this before, so of course it's hard to find out the problem.
 
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Alright, maybe if I could understand the thing where it turns worse after it being all right for a while, I could solve this entire thing? I'm not sure. I just can't understand exactly why, I have theories but no facts.
 
Look for vsync options in the driver screens, not the game screens.

I enabled it from drivers, i also enabled triple buffering and did some other settings. Not sure if I can say that its a difference.

@Karateyid

Yes, I'm pretty sure I have experienced it somewhat in BC2 singleplayer and BF3 co-op.. I am not sure though as it's easier to tell when I kill dozens of people, kind of hard to tell but im pretty sure its in singleplayer too. I am using a cable right now, I mentioned that its fine on my laptop and im not using cable there so.
 
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What gfx settings do you have when you play?? Have you tried lowering the gfx settings?? Have you tried afterburner runningin the background to see the stress on the gfx card?

Also how are you connecting to your monitor?? Hdmi or dvid??
 
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its really hard to understand what the exact problem is.

Are you saying that you believe that you are shooting people, but it misses when you know you should have hit them? Apart from that there are no other problems? game still feels smooth enough?
 
I enabled it from drivers, i also enabled triple buffering and did some other settings. Not sure if I can say that its a difference.

You need vsync set to "Let application decide" or something similar. Having it on all the time will make the delay worse.

I would set everything in AMD Control Centre to default, with the only change being triple buffering on (although this only affects OpenGL games).

As for the keyboard drivers, there are no drivers, they are plug and play.

One thing I forgot to ask, how is the PC connected to the monitor?
 
What gfx settings do you have when you play?? Have you tried lowering the gfx settings?? Have you tried afterburner runningin the background to see the stress on the gfx card?

Also how are you connecting to your monitor?? Hdmi or dvid??

Yes I believe that I have done that in the past. And I play on everything on lowest in most of my games that I want to do good on.

its really hard to understand what the exact problem is.

Are you saying that you believe that you are shooting people, but it misses when you know you should have hit them? Apart from that there are no other problems? game still feels smooth enough?
Game is very smooth. No lag, no stutter or anything, no screen tearing or any of that. But yes it' sort of what im saying, basically bullets don't hit when they should hit and the guns just feel inaccurate and loose when they should be hard and easy to aim with, which is related to the delay that I have in "MOBA" games whereas my hero responds later than it should, even though I have good ping. I believe my problem is in every game, yes.

You need vsync set to "Let application decide" or something similar. Having it on all the time will make the delay worse.

I would set everything in AMD Control Centre to default, with the only change being triple buffering on (although this only affects OpenGL games).

As for the keyboard drivers, there are no drivers, they are plug and play.

One thing I forgot to ask, how is the PC connected to the monitor?

I have an HDMI cable if that's what you wanted to know. I used a VGA before.
 
http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime

^^^ Try that.

I had a few goes, and I was getting 250-260 ms reaction time.

What is yours? Could rule out input lag or monitor lag?

I have an average of 230 MS reaction time.

edit: I have felt when I played dota one time that the game was VEEEERY much smoother than usual and the game felt really responsive, this was right after i got my new CPU + motherboard. So yes my problem is basically affecting my entire game somehow...
 
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