I hope all games dont go the rout of digital download only.

Next-gen consoles won't play second hand games.

Does this add to the argument of licensing at all? They obviously won't go completely digital-distribution, but are on their way.
 
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who's with me?!

I am!

I am also "old".

I like having game boxes on my bookshelf. I also miss the enormous boxes and manuals you used to get with games, I really felt like I was getting value for money when my game came with a giant book.

Yes, I know it makes no sense these days...and I even have a number of digital purchases as well, all of which work perfectly so long as I have an internet connection.

I think its because I grew up firstly without the internet, then with really patchy dial up connections that I had to share with flatmates. There were lots of outages, and obviously no one had heard of WiFi.

Boxed games meant I could play anywhere, anytime, without being at the mercy of an intermittent connection.

All that said, I have resigned myself to physical media eventually becoming impossible to obtain.

Its change.....and probably for the better, but old habits die hard....
 
Retail all the way here until its no longer available :D

Why some people are happy to pay £39.99 on Steam for new releases when you can buy the DVD-Rom version for £10-15 less if you pre-order is quite simply staggering as most no longer have disk checks you can install once then backup the folder if your unable to look after a simple PC game :rolleyes:

And UK is about 7-10 years away from offering decent ISP bandwidth to the mass market anyway so its going nowhere fast anytime soon ;) Most of London for instance does not have anything other than ADSL2+ which means up to 12-14Mbps which takes around 4 hours to download an average PC game.

Digital sales are great but otherwise I cannot see their appeal especially when they should be much cheaper not the other way around :eek:
 
Why some people are happy to pay £39.99 on Steam for new releases

Come on, your making yourself look silly.

Do not cherry pick literally a handful of titles to be the "going rate" for new releases.

I may as well say:

RETAIL IS A RIP OFF (Starcraft 2 / Diablo 3).
 
I've only ever seen the CoD games priced at £39.99 on Steam, and they are utter **** and anyone who buys them deserves to be ripped off.

Pricing isn't an issue on digital, especially when they all can be had cheaper elsewhere.
 
Retail all the way here until its no longer available :D

Why some people are happy to pay £39.99 on Steam for new releases when you can buy the DVD-Rom version for £10-15 less if you pre-order is quite simply staggering as most no longer have disk checks you can install once then backup the folder if your unable to look after a simple PC game :rolleyes:

And UK is about 7-10 years away from offering decent ISP bandwidth to the mass market anyway so its going nowhere fast anytime soon ;) Most of London for instance does not have anything other than ADSL2+ which means up to 12-14Mbps which takes around 4 hours to download an average PC game.

Digital sales are great but otherwise I cannot see their appeal especially when they should be much cheaper not the other way around :eek:

Only if you have tunnell vision and buy from Steam only.

Plenty of other digital copy retailers with good prices.

For example GMG are doing Bioshock infinite pre-purchase, steam key, for about £22 ( and i think you might get credit or cashback with that making it nearer £20). I doubt you will find a boxed copy cheaper.
 
Retail all the way here until its no longer available :D

Why some people are happy to pay £39.99 on Steam for new releases when you can buy the DVD-Rom version for £10-15 less if you pre-order is quite simply staggering as most no longer have disk checks you can install once then backup the folder if your unable to look after a simple PC game :rolleyes:

And UK is about 7-10 years away from offering decent ISP bandwidth to the mass market anyway so its going nowhere fast anytime soon ;) Most of London for instance does not have anything other than ADSL2+ which means up to 12-14Mbps which takes around 4 hours to download an average PC game.

Digital sales are great but otherwise I cannot see their appeal especially when they should be much cheaper not the other way around :eek:

I got 100mb and take no longer than 20 mins normally to download a game and be playing it.
 
i don't mind digital only as long as it is cheaper to buy, for example on GAME the digital version of a game i wanted was £5 more.

If you factor in the cost of the case and dvd etc (which wont be much) and the postage they are saving plus they wont have to employ warehouse distributors etc. i don't understand why they feel they can charge more for a digital version which in essence is just a cd key on an email somewhere.
 
I was referring to the future when digital distribution becomes the norm and boxed copies become rare. I don't dispute that digital distribution can be more expensive, but it can also be cheaper. I'm not suggesting its a magic bullet to make all games cheaper by dint of being on DD.



I love how people try to put down people with the opposing view with a demeaning statement. I disagree with you, therefore I have a chip on my shoulder? Hardly.

I also love the arrogance - you have decreed that the right of first sale is important to you, therefore games on DD must be cheaper? And I'm the one preaching from a castle.

Believe it or not, I was actually trying to help you. Digital distribution is coming. It will kill the old games on disc format. It may not be this year, it may not be this decade, but it will happen. The law may step in on the first sale issue (Germany has already started), it may not. But either way, DD is the future and you will need to adapt, or stop buying games. Now, you may think I'm wrong, and frankly, I don't care. I've given you the reality - its up to you if you heed it or not.

Sorry, I think you're mixing 2 different points of view, mine and the OPs!

I took exception to your arrogant way of 'putting down others with a different point of view'

"not some rubbish about "renting" games"!!!

I said I'm all for digital distribution, so as I've said you've confused 2 POV.

Telling someone there view is rubbish just because its not important to you is small and narrow minded.

There are some very thoughtful POV in this thread and most are willing to acknowledge others, so I thank them for it :)
 
I'm all up for keeping retail discs. When I part with cash I expect to get something for it. Not just to rent a game and never being able to own it or sell it on. I would say about 80% of my games are second hand.

I don't see the issue developers have with second hand games as you should be able to sell on. When you buy a car are you told you have to keep it until you decide to scrap it?, no. Anything else you buy can be sold on so why not games??

I buy games to play of course but I also collect them. Seems like this will all be gone within a few years.
 
I don't see the issue developers have with second hand games as you should be able to sell on. When you buy a car are you told you have to keep it until you decide to scrap it?, no. Anything else you buy can be sold on so why not games??

Oh god, not this again.

It's not the same thing.

The majority of games have a finite amount of content (multiplayer being the exception) PER USER, whereas the car has a finite total lifespan (possibly measured in thousands of miles) split between all users. The car is sold for less second-hand, because it wearing out through use. A second hand game is functionally identical to new.

There are perfectly valid arguments in favour of re-selling games. Comparisons to cars are not among them.
 
I am the opposite, I can't wait for everything to digital. There is nothing that I hate more than wanting to install an old game and scavenging around the house to find the damn CD that isn't in the box that I thought it was in.
 
I am the opposite, I can't wait for everything to digital. There is nothing that I hate more than wanting to install an old game and scavenging around the house to find the damn CD that isn't in the box that I thought it was in.

Then the euporia of finding the disc and realising you have lost the serial :)
 
You build a rig like that to play second hand games?

HAHAHAHAHA.
The only highend Component in his build is the GTX 680..
So I don't know why you find it so funny...:confused:


As anyone that going build a PC for gaming is going to throw most the build money at the GPU
 
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You build a rig like that to play second hand games?

Why not??. No need to buy games straight away and pay top dollar. You'll be surprised how quickly game prices drop.

I don't think I have ever pre-ordered.
 
About time if you ask me... I've lost countless DVD etc as I moved a few times a few years ago, it was messy and I ended up loosing quite a bit of stuff, managed to keep onto some of my games..

Ended up buying a lot of them on Steam for a few qiud each, or worse yet I had the DVD for Toca but couldn't find the key... Ok I could download a patch to crack it but not the point.

Point is, all of my recent purchases have been via Steam or can be activated on Steam, end result is... I'll never lose those games again, I can download them on any machine, anytime anywhere seeing as I've got a gaming laptop..

Much easier to keep track of my collection of games.. Digital is the way forward and good IMO.

What is it with people saying about things going "digital"?
Last time i checked DVD's are digital.
 
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