Ok, thank you.
Would you normally update the bios soon after finishing the build, or do you do it before finishing (flashing the bios on the motherboard before adding CPU, ram etc?)
I never got around to upgrading in 2019 - new build advice please
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Would you normally update the bios soon after finishing the build, or do you do it before finishing (flashing the bios on the motherboard before adding CPU, ram etc?)
Ok, thank you. I haven't considered looking at Intel mainly because I was impressed with my son's Ryzen setup, which has been very good
If you want the official fixes, you should check when you receive the board that it has the BIOS which contains them. Asus have pulled those beta bios disclaimers and I suspect they no longer ship boards with the old BIOS.
As for the merit (or otherwise) of the fixes, I can't say.
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Ok, thank you.
AMD have just launched their Threadripper 7000 CPUs so if you need a large number of CPU cores or a large amount (> 64GB) of RAM then they may be worth considering.
Do the applications you use benefit from GPU acceleration?
I had a look at the Threadrippers on overclockers, but they were out of my budget.
Cinema 4D would be the only software that would benefit I think, it can do GPU rendering and of course the viewport would be smother with a good GPU. Which would also apply to cad, but not the rendering. Unfortunately you have to buy the GPU rendering pack for cinema as an add on, I don't think my version has it?
you mentioned the RAM, I have been wondering about that. Whether just to max out the board at 128gb so I don't have to worry about future upgrades. Or just go with half at 64gb and then have hassle of trying to match the RGB type of ram years later (which is not that important I suppose, but looks nice!!)
is 128gb too much? Is it beyond what windows can recognise?
It was for AM5, this is an old video:
Is 128GB of DDR5 IMPOSSIBLE on AM5? Level1 Investigates!
Check out the forum thread here: https://forum.level1techs.com/t/7950x-i-want-4x32gb-unless-it-sucks-does-it-suck/189825**********************************Che...
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I think things have improved since then.
Windows doesn't care.
That was an interesting video, thank you for the link. 128gb is probably way more than I need with the risk of problems. But I'm slightly worried about AM5 and that I don't think I have the technical expertise to sort out problems, I've seen quite a bit of negativity for it. I am wondering if I should go with am4 insteadIt was for AM5, this is an old video:
Is 128GB of DDR5 IMPOSSIBLE on AM5? Level1 Investigates!
Check out the forum thread here: https://forum.level1techs.com/t/7950x-i-want-4x32gb-unless-it-sucks-does-it-suck/189825**********************************Che...
I think things have improved since then.
Windows doesn't care.
AM4 is a now obsolete platform; AMD has moved to AM5.
I know, not sure what to do now. Perhaps pick the parts and post back on here to see if it's all ok.
I've just read that the boot up times are terrible with am5, is this true? Out of all things I would be looking for a fast boot. Currently I can turn in my windows 7 pc and it takes sone time, my son's Ryzen is pretty much instant.
The difference can be pretty large for productivity/workstation type usage, see here:
AMD Ryzen 7000 Series Processors Content Creation Review
AMD has launched their new Ryzen 7000 Series desktop processors (code-named "Raphael") based on the latest Zen 4 architecture. These CPUs support DDR5 and PCIe 5.0, with up to 16 cores with a peak clock speed of 5.7 GHz. Along with the increased frequencies and DDR5 support, AMD has touted a 13%...
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Boot times: @ 18:30. This is the last time I saw it recorded in a review, but be aware this is with immature bios, AMD make a lot of improvements over time.
This is an updated video of AM5 with 192GB (based on the 'new' 24/48GB modules):
AMD Ryzen 7000: 48GB DIMMs, Agesa 1.0.0.7 And A Future With 192GB RAM
48gb DIMMs are here, but things aren't quite so simple for Team Red. Wendell lays it out here!Forum thread: https://forum.level1techs.com/t/ddr5-4-dimms-on-a...
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This is widely reported but only applies to the first boot when the BIOS is sorting itself out and is apparently to do with RAM training. Subsequent boots do not have this issue. I have an AM5 system to my immediate left and boots are normal speed.
I did see some videos about ram training and first boot. But I wasn't sure if it's the very first time after the build or every time you turn the pc off? My pc is never on when not in use, so will that mean I could get a slow boot on AM5 if I fully power off?
How long is your boot time please?
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Just timed my i7 windows 7 boot to desktop, which since adding a Logitech keyboard / mouse with Logitech G hub has greatly increased boot times:
To desktop = 1min 49sec
When USB device connection sounds for keyboard and mouse = 2min 22sec
The mouse is sluggish to move until the USB sound, after that all OK
So, i am guessing any new build, even with its issues will be massively better than my current set up
To desktop = 1min 49sec
When USB device connection sounds for keyboard and mouse = 2min 22sec
The mouse is sluggish to move until the USB sound, after that all OK
So, i am guessing any new build, even with its issues will be massively better than my current set up
I'm not at home right now but it's a matter of seconds.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you only boot your PC up once a day?Just timed my i7 windows 7 boot to desktop, which since adding a Logitech keyboard / mouse with Logitech G hub has greatly increased boot times:
To desktop = 1min 49sec
When USB device connection sounds for keyboard and mouse = 2min 22sec
The mouse is sluggish to move until the USB sound, after that all OK
So, i am guessing any new build, even with its issues will be massively better than my current set up
Seeing as your main usage is presumably very heavy stuff, isn't cutting your processing, rendering(, etc) times by literally hours going to be worth more to you than making a cup of tea once a day?
Yes, only turn the pc on in the evenings, it's not on permanently, only when I use it. The weekend is when it's used the most when I have more time. As for rendering, mine aren't that good, so not long!
Thank you for your help, it's been really good - I have a parts list and will post after I have decided on the OS version;
I have a question about windows 10 / 11 please;
The software I want to use are as follows, but they are old
Cinema 4D R11 (for 3D)
Required Windows XP I think?
Installed on W7 64 bit
Draft sight R4 (for CAD)
Recommended Windows 7 / 8 64 bit
Installed on W7 64 bit
Do you know if these will install on either version of Windows, if you use them and do they run fine? In compatibility mode?
I own the perpetual license for C4D R11, but for a new licence of the latest C4D will make the PC build far too high. So I was hoping my version would install and run without any problems?
Thank you
I have a question about windows 10 / 11 please;
The software I want to use are as follows, but they are old
Cinema 4D R11 (for 3D)
Required Windows XP I think?
Installed on W7 64 bit
Draft sight R4 (for CAD)
Recommended Windows 7 / 8 64 bit
Installed on W7 64 bit
Do you know if these will install on either version of Windows, if you use them and do they run fine? In compatibility mode?
I own the perpetual license for C4D R11, but for a new licence of the latest C4D will make the PC build far too high. So I was hoping my version would install and run without any problems?
Thank you