I think I'm going mad - I'm considering an MG ZS! Any opinions welcome

[TW]Fox · 24 Mar 2006 at 19:01

Pug said:
i'm really hoping fox is just button pushing now as this is getting ridiculous...

I just want him to admit there isn't some huge gulf of coolness, trendyness and outstanding good lucks between a Mondeo and an MG ZS. The way he's going on is as if the MG is a DB9 and the Mondeo is a trabant. It's almost as irritating as my constant wittering, and thats saying something.

Rwac · 24 Mar 2006 at 19:04

[TW]Fox said:
I just want him to admit there isn't some huge gulf of coolness, trendyness and outstanding good lucks between a Mondeo and an MG ZS. The way he's going on is as if the MG is a DB9 and the Mondeo is a trabant. It's almost as irritating as my constant wittering, and thats saying something.

I quite CLEARLY havent stated that i believe its an all inspiring car. And for gods sake, i have said this already in 1 post, if not more. You really have lost the plot - and people will see this when they read the thread. We managed to get it back on topic, and you took it away. I'm not going to quote all of your 'meaningless' posts, because i dont have that long to live. For an example, look 2/3 posts above. I've RTM'd, in hope that this thread will be saved from your childishness.

Edit: OP, if you'd like to ask anything MG ZS's, then again do just pop me an email, as this thread appears to be going down hill

Fireblade2K4 · 24 Mar 2006 at 19:10

ajgoodfellow, my advise to you is, find some cars mentioned here and test drive them. MG's, ST200's, and the rest, at the end of the day it is YOU who the car is for, nobody else, whichever you like is the one you should buy, yes they may have mechanical issues, or look like a dolly trolly but at the end of the day you have to buy it, run it, service it and keep it.

I was told about the K-Series headgasket problem before I bought my old 1.4SEi and sure enough it went, I had it reparied and then no more issues with the car at all, but at that time it was a car I really wanted, so I had it.

Bit older now so I have moved onto a more refined car, refined in build, performance, comfort just generally a step up from where I was at which it is all about, onto big and better things.

If you get an MG I'm sure you will be happy with it, same said for an ST200, end of the day its your choice mate, we can only "Try" to provide you with information about the said car and alternatives, rest is up to you.

Stu

[TW]Fox · 24 Mar 2006 at 19:11

Goatyman said:
I'm not going to quote all of your 'meaningless' posts, because i dont have that long to live. For an example, look 2/3 posts above. I've RTM'd, in hope that this thread will be saved from your childishness.

You were just as bad, it takes two to tango :rolleyes:

Try reading your OWN posts in this thread before you start finger pointing and crying about the thread being 'off topic'.

I am, however, struggling to see whats off topic about a small difference of opinion over the asthetics/image of a ZS and a Mondeo in a thread which, for the last 3-4 pages (Since before I joined it) has been 'ST200 v MG ZS'.

Rwac · 24 Mar 2006 at 19:12

Fireblade2K4 said:
ajgoodfellow, my advise to you is, find some cars mentioned here and test drive them. MG's, ST200's, and the rest, at the end of the day it is YOU who the car is for, nobody else, whichever you like is the one you should buy, yes they may have mechanical issues, or look like a dolly trolly but at the end of the day you have to buy it, run it, service it and keep it.

I was told about the K-Series headgasket problem before I bought my old 1.4SEi and sure enough it went, I had it reparied and then no more issues with the car at all, but at that time it was a car I really wanted, so I had it.

Bit older now so I have moved onto a more refined car, refined in build, performance, comfort just generally a step up from where I was at which it is all about, onto big and better things.

If you get an MG I'm sure you will be happy with it, same said for an ST200, end of the day its your choice mate, we can only "Try" to provide you with information about the said car and alternatives, rest is up to you.

Stu

Good post, and agreed, test driving is what matters. Find local dealers with the cars you are looking at up for sale - they won't pass you for a test drive, try and get them when they're not busy

Edit: Fox, get the hint, stop posting about it.

rG-tom · 24 Mar 2006 at 19:16

sorry but coming from a completely unbiased person, a mondeo st200 would at least for me get HELL of a better response than an MG ZS, no doubt about it. The MG ZS is a 400 with stick on tat, the st200 a mondeo with stick on tat.....the mondeo is a better base car for a start, and guess what? the st200 looks better and certainly shifts better. I can't personally imagine why someone who likes the MG ZS would slate the st200 for being boring, when essentially they are competition with each other, and the st200 being the sportier more daring of the two?

And i do actually quite like the zs, so it's not a case of me disliking that

Fox, as usual, like it or not, has an extremely valid point.

Tom.

ajgoodfellow · 24 Mar 2006 at 19:16

Fireblade2K4 said:
ajgoodfellow, my advise to you is, find some cars mentioned here and test drive them. MG's, ST200's, and the rest, at the end of the day it is YOU who the car is for, nobody else, whichever you like is the one you should buy, yes they may have mechanical issues, or look like a dolly trolly but at the end of the day you have to buy it, run it, service it and keep it.

I was told about the K-Series headgasket problem before I bought my old 1.4SEi and sure enough it went, I had it reparied and then no more issues with the car at all, but at that time it was a car I really wanted, so I had it.

Bit older now so I have moved onto a more refined car, refined in build, performance, comfort just generally a step up from where I was at which it is all about, onto big and better things.

If you get an MG I'm sure you will be happy with it, same said for an ST200, end of the day its your choice mate, we can only "Try" to provide you with information about the said car and alternatives, rest is up to you.

Stu

Thanks for the post and for all of your advice

As you say I'll have to test drive them both and see what I prefer

Goatyman mentioned the Civic 1.8 VTi-S earlier. I must admit I'd never even considered it! I might have a look at that too

Rwac · 24 Mar 2006 at 19:18

rG-tom said:
sorry but coming from a completely unbiased person, a mondeo st200 would at least for me get HELL of a better response than an MG ZS, no doubt about it. The MG ZS is a 400 with stick on tat, the st200 a mondeo with stick on tat.....the mondeo is a better base car for a start, and guess what? the st200 looks better and certainly shifts better. I can't personally imagine why someone who likes the MG ZS would slate the st200 for being boring, when essentially they are competition with the st200 being the sportier more daring of the two?

And i do actually quite like the zs, so it's not a case of me disliking that

Fox, as usual, like it or not, has an extremely valid point.

Tom.

My mate point for the thread, which i mentioned several times, was that the MG is better value for money in my opinion. A newer, lower mileage model for less money.

As for the Civic VTI-S, definately check it out, i viewed one but didnt test drive it.

[TW]Fox · 24 Mar 2006 at 19:18

Goatyman said:
Edit: Fox, get the hint, stop posting about it.

Is that the internet equivilent of sticking your fingers in your ears and humming to avoid admitting you were OTT? Don't tell me what to do.

Anyway, back on topic, becuase although Mondeo v ZS is on topic, you 'telling me off' most certainly is not...

The MG ZS makes sense, in KV6 form. It's a reasonably decent sporty saloon and yes, offers good value due to Rovers issues. In 4 cylinder form though... there are far better choices out there. Such as the previously mentioned Civic VTi/.

rG-tom · 24 Mar 2006 at 19:20

Goatyman said:
My mate point for the thread, which i mentioned several times, was that the MG is better value for money in my opinion. A newer, lower mileage model for less money.

As for the Civic VTI-S, definately check it out, i viewed one but didnt test drive it.

hehe, you can always get a newer, lower mileage car for less money when buying second hand, but it usually means you end up with less car

Tom.

Scania · 24 Mar 2006 at 19:55

Trouble is, the Rover is an aged product, that in its time, was loved by old people, and in its later days, when it should have been killed off, it was fitted with tat and marketed as something it isn't - a modern sporty car.

Rover are dead, for good reason, they were rubbish cars way past their sell by date (with the possible exception of the 75) living on a brand (MG) which is itself long past the glory days.

I do mourn the passing of Rover, but, had they not made such rubbish they'd still be in business today.

I would'nt entertain a Rover, personally, if you want one however, go for it.

Just don't seriously expect anybody who knows a jot about cars to be impressed by it.

(Sorry to be blunt, but,you did ask for opinions.....

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Simon · 24 Mar 2006 at 20:05

The ZS180 was well praised by the motoring press, it is certainly a very good handling car. The engine is a good unit and it is a well built car with Honda underpinnings.

ajgoodfellow · 24 Mar 2006 at 21:04

Thanks for your comments and opinions

The thing is that the MG ZS is a little more than a rebadged 45 - it does have significant suspension improvements which the motoring press have talked about leading to a far better drive then offered by the 400/45

Scania · 24 Mar 2006 at 22:27

ajgoodfellow said:
Thanks for your comments and opinions

The thing is that the MG ZS is a little more than a rebadged 45 - it does have significant suspension improvements which the motoring press have talked about leading to a far better drive then offered by the 400/45

Ahh yes, but that old addage still apply's,

"You cannot polish a turd".

ajgoodfellow · 24 Mar 2006 at 22:29

James_N · 24 Mar 2006 at 23:17

oh dear, what did i start by mentioning the ST200?

And fox, just a quickie while your in this thread. I read further back its possible to supercharge one? Think it was the fellow with the ST200 estate that said. Just wondering how much this costs and what the power would be like afterwards?

Fireblade2K4 · 25 Mar 2006 at 00:01

James_N said:
oh dear, what did i start by mentioning the ST200?

And fox, just a quickie while your in this thread. I read further back its possible to supercharge one? Think it was the fellow with the ST200 estate that said. Just wondering how much this costs and what the power would be like afterwards?

Erm, power....LOTS, cost....LOTS, that just about sums it up at the moment.

Stu

[TW]Fox · 25 Mar 2006 at 01:42

James_N said:
oh dear, what did i start by mentioning the ST200?

And fox, just a quickie while your in this thread. I read further back its possible to supercharge one? Think it was the fellow with the ST200 estate that said. Just wondering how much this costs and what the power would be like afterwards?

Yes you can Supercharge them but it is very expensive, approximately £6000. Power wise, you are looking at between 250 and 300bhp. There are a few people who have done this.