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i5 12400 or Ryzen 5 5600?

GoogalyMoogaly said:
...so there is not much CPU cooler clearance (147mm if memory serves). So I need something that doesn't run very hot. I don't think the stock Ryzen cooler will fit, not sure if the 12400 cooler will (does it even come with one?) and is it any good?
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The 12400 does come with a cooler, a small all black one with a small blue ring around the rim. I've just measured it and it is 50mm high. I suppose it is sufficient to cool the 12400 as it runs so cool but have no idea how loud the fan is as I haven't used it.

kute said:
I really feel like people try to be budget-minded with tech and it just ends up causing them to have to upgrade sooner and eats the savings up

By this I mean if you're considering a 12400, how much more could the 13600k be? It's such an impressive part that savings 100 bucks to avoid it just seems backwards to me,

For the record I'm on a 7600x(very happy with it, I only game and watch movies) but if it wasn't at the very start of a new socket, I'd have got the 13600k

If you already have a mobo for the 5600x, it's a great part too. But Idk about buying new years old parts
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It's not to do with only being budget minded, it's having a system that is sufficient for the specified requirements. A 12400 is way more than sufficient for "light occasional gaming and media duties" for many, many years to come.
 
Surely you buy a 5600 and just put it in the system you have now? Or a 5600G if you want an iGPU.

I'd be diagnosing the fault first tbh, as it could be a simple as a CR2032 replacement, or PSU dying and unable to provide the required power etc.

Edit: I'll happily do the testing for you, flash the BIOS etc if you can't or don't have the kit. :)
 
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Journey said:
Surely you buy a 5600 and just put it in the system you have now? Or a 5600G if you want an iGPU.

I'd be diagnosing the fault first tbh, as it could be a simple as a CR2032 replacement, or PSU dying and unable to provide the required power etc.

Edit: I'll happily do the testing for you, flash the BIOS etc if you can't or don't have the kit. :)
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My issue is that I don't have the BIOS version to support the 5600, so I'm not sure that would diagnose much. Times like this I appreciate the flashback feature.
I can't imagine the battery being flat would cause this and I'm not even sure where the battery is on this board.

PSU being dead is a concern.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
My issue is that I don't have the BIOS version to support the 5600, so I'm not sure that would diagnose much. Times like this I appreciate the flashback feature.
I can't imagine the battery being flat would cause this and I'm not even sure where the battery is on this board.

PSU being dead is a concern.
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send it to @Journey
can vouch for him. top chap. helped me reflash my bios when i ballsed it up lol.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
My issue is that I don't have the BIOS version to support the 5600, so I'm not sure that would diagnose much. Times like this I appreciate the flashback feature.
I can't imagine the battery being flat would cause this and I'm not even sure where the battery is on this board.

PSU being dead is a concern.
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I assume you've taken it all out the case and bench tested it as a totally barebones test? So no USB devices, no SATA, no NVME disks - just a single RAM module in the correct slot, and the lowest powered GPU you have on hand? if you are keeping the case and cooler etc. and you haven't done this then you aren't wasting anytime either as you'll need to take it apart anyhow.
 
Journey said:
I assume you've taken it all out the case and bench tested it as a totally barebones test? So no USB devices, no SATA, no NVME disks - just a single RAM module in the correct slot, and the lowest powered GPU you have on hand? if you are keeping the case and cooler etc. and you haven't done this then you aren't wasting anytime either as you'll need to take it apart anyhow.
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True, I can at least test it with a different PSU that way.
 
I've got a 12400 and with a cheap tower cooler and a p12 fan and some mx4 I had lying about it sits at about 50c while gaming with the fan at <600rpm. Not hard to cool. Only issue was it wouldn't run 4 sticks of 8gb 3200 DDR4 that I allready had in XMP mode without dropping the memory controller to gear 2. Runs 2 sticks fine, XMP, 3200, gear 1.
 
Well, I hadn't mentioned it in this thread (as this was about deciding on a new part rather than troubleshooting), but just before the system went wrong one stick of RAM died so I RMA'd that and had picked up some alternate memory so tried that. It was just after setting the XMP profile with the new RAM that it went wrong. The old RAM was replaced and I recieved it today, so thought I'd try it just in case. It's now all sprung back to life!
Must've been that other RAM that it didn't like.
So the upgrade is on hold, thanks for the info, experiences and opinions though. I do still want to do an upgrade at some point as the CPU isn't Win11 compatible.

I might update the BIOS, just in case I ever need to put a new CPU in here, although the newest I can go to is a 3000 series, which are not easy to get these days so...
 
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look at bios 7.4
"2. Support Renoir, Vermeer, and Cezanne CPU"

Vermeer is ryzen 5000 :)
 
MartinPrince said:
The 12400 does come with a cooler, a small all black one with a small blue ring around the rim. I've just measured it and it is 50mm high. I suppose it is sufficient to cool the 12400 as it runs so cool but have no idea how loud the fan is as I haven't used
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I've been using the stock cooler on my 12400F since day one, I meant to get a nice AIO but I'll wait until I plonk an i7 in there. It isn't too bad noise-wise, it is audible if the processor is flat out but there are very few situations where the CPU is at 100% anyway (1440p, paired with a 3080/10g) - I'm really quite impressed by it, much better than old Intel coolers.
 
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