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I5 or I7 gaming?
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I can vouch for 4 threads being used as my readout from the MSI afterburner shows stats of all 4 cores being smashed whilst gaming.
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As mentioned the Coffeelake's rule the roost for gaming and the Ryzen refresh isn't going to change that. More often than not the six core i5's match their i7 equivalents for gaming at the moment.
yes coffee lake helps as those are extra "physical" "real" cores
Its hard to try and explain this, as people will see a game .e.g use all 8 threads on an i7 7700k, and just think those logical threads are providing more performance when they not.
In short unless you can get an i7 with no compromise on other parts of the PC then I would get an i5 instead, and allocate the £ saving to other components.
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Huh? Core i9s are mesh architecture and surely slower at gaming than mainstream Core i7s?
no not some games.also obviously depends on how fast you have them.for eg i have a i9 7900 at 5.0ghz.in pubg over the 5820k @4.6 its 30 fps quicker.same res same settings same card.so even a 8700k at 5ghz will be slightly behind.which is basically like a 5 ghz 5820k.
look at it this way, all the top tier intel based gaming laptops have i7 processors in with the average ones with an i5, so if they putting i7's in proper gaming laptops for ages then that should tell you how useful they are for gaming, not to mention benchmarks and desktop parts are stronger than laptop ones.
This argument is very flawed because mobile SKUs are not aligned with desktop ones, e.g. some/most mobile Core i7s were not 4c/8t (up until Kaby Lake anyway, not sure about now). Most/all mobile Core i5s are 2c/4t.
okay i shouldve rephrased with what i was originally going to put which was in regards to the 7700 as those i7 were the ones i had in my head, i said ages on the basis of chance there might have been good ones back then, dont know what the first proper gaming laptop is that first had an i7, those dual core i7's you refer to i have seen in consumer laptops with or without dedicated graphics as i was looking for one the other day.
i wasnt referencing the i5, i was only talking about the i7 and im also aware laptop and desktop parts are not like for like and all that, the point was if companies are making proper gaming laptops with an i7 4c8t to save confusion then surely the desktop variant being much better, would mean they are very capable at gaming, not to mention the benchmarks about.
I never said the 8700ks are not good for gaming, they are, as they have cores that are as good as an 8600k. I am merely saying the advantage in gaming is small.
As to why you get gaming laptops with i7's? because business exists to make money, they will sell the most expensive parts they can.
Of course not all gamers just game and do nothing else, some stream, some encode video records and more, in those cases I7's have clearer merits. I never said i7 vs high end i5 has absolutely no use if you a gamer, it depends what else you also do.
As to why you get gaming laptops with i7's? because business exists to make money, they will sell the most expensive parts they can.
Of course not all gamers just game and do nothing else, some stream, some encode video records and more, in those cases I7's have clearer merits. I never said i7 vs high end i5 has absolutely no use if you a gamer, it depends what else you also do.
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That only tells you how marketing works. Not saying the i7 is a bad option, but so many prebuilt systems have dumb specs because they pick a component to be the headliner to try and sell it, never mind if the rest of the system is appropriately matched.
Last year had 1800X, 8600K, 6800K.
On games that are not single thread limited, or when the 1080ti hits the wall, the 1800X @ 4.2 all core boost with 3600mhz ram was the best.
However I have settled on a 8600K @ 5.1Ghz with 4.8ghz ring and 4200 ram overclock. Because i play Total Wars or games made by the PDX strategy engine, which are very ghz demanding and two cores max (CK2, Stellaris, Hearts of Iron 4).
And except those games i haven't seen any other benefit having a high clocked cpu over ryzen.
Also for laptops, to put in perspective everything, my i7 6700hq (1060 6gb) laptop tanks on those games (3300mhz max speed) while my brand new Ryzen 1700 laptop (rx580) performs miles better on those same games.