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i59400f what to upgrade too

MaXxBoulton said:
all the bench marks show the 9600k at stock speeds.
And just to be clear the 9600k won all but a few gaming bench's.... or am i missing something?
out of 18 tests(games) the 9600k was better in 12 and the others was withing a few FPS(margin of error)

i am not saying Ryzen is the wrong choice because its not, i know i got the wrong CPU when i did but as a student it was the right choice on the pocket(at the time of buying)
BUT ever Ryzen buyer say am buying this so i can upgrade to 4XXX when the land, this is assuming (1) work on said chip set you opted for.. (2) are better than say a 3% step

because if not, i have the better upgrade option as i know my board WILL support 9900ks. or are you going to tell me the 9900ks is not the best gaming CPU right now?

But i like you spend all day running win zip and cine bench.


EDIT: just seen all the gaming benchmarks have PBO turned on, why no tests with the 9600k at 5.2ghz?
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Did you see the min FPS, like 84 vs 103 in BFV, that's the problem the with the 9600K, it might win by 10 FPS on the averages, some times, but its 20 FPS slower on the minimums which is where it actually matters.

Also you said the 9400F was better, do you still believe that?
 
humbug said:
The 9600K doesn't even out perform a 3600 so a 9400F has no chance...



https://www.techspot.com/review/1871-amd-ryzen-3600/

The Ryzen 3600 is better than the 9600K, even for gaming. The only thing from Intel that's better than a Ryzen 3600 is an 8700K, 9700K and a 9900K and that's a pretty damming.
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What you on about. Your crazy....even my 4790k is much better than that silly Ryzen 3600
 
MaXxBoulton said:
all the bench marks show the 9600k at stock speeds.
And just to be clear the 9600k won all but a few gaming bench's.... or am i missing something?
out of 18 tests(games) the 9600k was better in 12 and the others was withing a few FPS(margin of error)

i am not saying Ryzen is the wrong choice because its not, i know i got the wrong CPU when i did but as a student it was the right choice on the pocket(at the time of buying)
BUT ever Ryzen buyer say am buying this so i can upgrade to 4XXX when the land, this is assuming (1) work on said chip set you opted for.. (2) are better than say a 3% step

because if not, i have the better upgrade option as i know my board WILL support 9900ks. or are you going to tell me the 9900ks is not the best gaming CPU right now?
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It's being touted as a 10-15% ipc for ryzen 4000 with a unified cache which will improve memory latency, this should be enough to overtake Intel in gaming even if clock speed doesn't change.

The problem is in a few years that 9900ks will still be about £350 where as the 4700x will be going for £100 so even if a board is needed which is highly unlikely it will still be cheaper over all.

Also I'm guessing you will need a new board for that 9900ks as you said you went cheap on the CPU so I'm guessing you didn't spend a huge amount on a motherboard that would have good enough Vrms to overclock a 9900ks.
 
MaXxBoulton said:
Most games still only used 6 or less cores and the one that use more like real cores not hyper threads
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Maybe if you're still living in 2015 lol. Pretty much every demanding AAA game in the past 2 years uses 6+ cores and HT.

Hell you can even find games from that period that will uses 12 threads, such as BF1 or Assassins Creed Unity.
 
greatash said:
Maybe if you're still living in 2015 lol. Pretty much every demanding AAA game in the past 2 years uses 6+ cores and HT.

Hell you can even find games from that period that will uses 12 threads, such as BF1 or Assassins Creed Unity.
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Yep.

Dying Light (Jan 2015) was the game that finally laid my trusty Q6600 to rest.

All four cores at 100½, and it was clocked at 3.6, so was totally CPU bound.

Replaced it with an X5650 @ 4.4, and found the game utilises all 12 threads.

Still have that CPU and it still runs my GPU (1070 currently) at 100½ in games that require it.
 
Kelt said:
Yep.

Dying Light (Jan 2015) was the game that finally laid my trusty Q6600 to rest.

All four cores at 100½, and it was clocked at 3.6, so was totally CPU bound.

Replaced it with an X5650 @ 4.4, and found the game utilises all 12 threads.

Still have that CPU and it still runs my GPU (1070 currently) at 100½ in games that require it.
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Ah yes I remember dying light battering my 2500k. I ended up replacing it with a Xeon E3 1270 in 2016 which is basically an i7 2600, it was so much smoother. Deus ex mankind divided I also remember had 100% CPU usage in the middle of Prague. Witcher 3 was borderline okay with 4 threads, the list goes on.

Some people still think games only use 4-6 threads and HT doesnt matter for some reason which hasn't been the case for years.
 
greatash said:
Ah yes I remember dying light battering my 2500k. I ended up replacing it with a Xeon E3 1270 in 2016 which is basically an i7 2600, it was so much smoother. Deus ex mankind divided I also remember had 100% CPU usage in the middle of Prague. Witcher 3 was borderline okay with 4 threads, the list goes on.

Some people still think games only use 4-6 threads and HT doesnt matter for some reason which hasn't been the case for years.
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I went from a Xeon E3 1220/Core i5 2400 to a Xeon E3 1230 V2/Core i7 3770 before I upgraded to Ryzen 5 2600. The Xeon E3 1230 V2 was smoother in newer games compared to the Xeon E3 1220,so I saw the same improvements as you.

Also,interestingly we went a similar upgrade path too!
 
pete910 said:
It's not showing off being sensible :p

You dont buy a car and only get one with 2 wheels do you......
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4.6Ghz 4690K to a......

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3.9Ghz Ryzen 1600. more than doubled my FPS.

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