My temps are good at an average of about 60 while gaming. But I did change the fans from the standard 1200 rpm to 2000 rpm. I have the fans on balanced in the Corsair link software. Which when needed they ramp up to about 1600 rpm.
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My temps are good at an average of about 60 while gaming. But I did change the fans from the standard 1200 rpm to 2000 rpm. I have the fans on balanced in the Corsair link software. Which when needed they ramp up to about 1600 rpm.
Both H115i Pro and Kraken X62 are made by Asetek. Differences are cosmetics with different fans and software.I didn't end up buying the Eisbaer. After looking at various pro's and con's I had two choices of either the Corsair H115i Pro or Kraken X62.
The Corsair won out of those two due to it's better software. But thanks for the advice all the same Oritalwalsh.
They do both use Asetak. I'm not sure if the Kraken has a gen 6 pump, however.
This has now even changed with the new Platinum range that has just been released.
And thanks for making me think more about positive pressure in my case Doyll.
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I have both the h115i pro and X62. I also have an Ek predator 360 and Dh 15. Both the H115i pro and the X62 were fitted with after market corsair fans not the stock fans that came with it. My X62 failed fairly early into it life cycle IIRC something like 8-10 months. While arguably it looked better (RGB bling) compared to the corsair unit the pump was noisier. Not disgustingly louder but certainly noisier.
I also remembered at the time I was using a 5960k and it totally overwhelmed the X62 that was using ML Pro fans. It was only a mild overclock like 4.2ghz @1.21v so not as if it was an extreme overclock with insane voltages. Just playing a game would see it soar to into high temps at least what I deem to be high. I don't run any cpu which hits over 65c when gaming. Shortly after that it failed when I switched on my pc and it was idling at 80c+ this could be down to just my particular unit but it left a bad taste.
So I just went back to the Ek predator. For all the hate it gets and bad reputation the unit I have worked flawlessly. Ugly as hell but it get the job done. Better cooling but for those who don't want or can't afford custom watercooling. ANd I always keep my trusty DH15 should in the unlikely even all of them fail I have a back up cooler.
But what really bugs me about AIO/CLC however you classify them is the software ecosytem that comes with them. I had a hue+ with the X62 and you have to use the cam software sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. First time I installed a Hue+ the very first thing it made me do was to firmware flash it. Not a problem in itself until it got stuck flashing it and bricked it. I had to RMA back OCUK to get that sorted.
Oh Like when I wanted to use the corsair Rgb fans soon as Icue software fired up it span all the fans at 1200 rpm constantly. I had to look online to find out on teh forums that the update you had to delete the default profile and make a new one or set custom curve.
You don't see the people who use custom watercooling or air cooler users need to jump through hoops just to get their setups working.
Also I read somewhere either reddit or corsair forums that some ML pro rgb users are a bit miffed that it has different specs to Ml pro's
i.e not as good.
I also remembered at the time I was using a 5960k and it totally overwhelmed the X62 that was using ML Pro fans. It was only a mild overclock like 4.2ghz @1.21v so not as if it was an extreme overclock with insane voltages. Just playing a game would see it soar to into high temps at least what I deem to be high. I don't run any cpu which hits over 65c when gaming. Shortly after that it failed when I switched on my pc and it was idling at 80c+ this could be down to just my particular unit but it left a bad taste.
So I just went back to the Ek predator. For all the hate it gets and bad reputation the unit I have worked flawlessly. Ugly as hell but it get the job done. Better cooling but for those who don't want or can't afford custom watercooling. ANd I always keep my trusty DH15 should in the unlikely even all of them fail I have a back up cooler.
But what really bugs me about AIO/CLC however you classify them is the software ecosytem that comes with them. I had a hue+ with the X62 and you have to use the cam software sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. First time I installed a Hue+ the very first thing it made me do was to firmware flash it. Not a problem in itself until it got stuck flashing it and bricked it. I had to RMA back OCUK to get that sorted.
Oh Like when I wanted to use the corsair Rgb fans soon as Icue software fired up it span all the fans at 1200 rpm constantly. I had to look online to find out on teh forums that the update you had to delete the default profile and make a new one or set custom curve.
You don't see the people who use custom watercooling or air cooler users need to jump through hoops just to get their setups working.
Also I read somewhere either reddit or corsair forums that some ML pro rgb users are a bit miffed that it has different specs to Ml pro's
i.e not as good.
With my plan to go with better water cooling next year.
Would I be better to buy something like this: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-w...watercooling-kit-3831109863480-wc-99c-ek.html
Or build a system from parts?
I'm not planning on water cooling the graphics card, just the CPU.
I also read that a lot of people were having issues with CAM. So that put me off the Kraken because of it GoRedwings19.
Would I be better to buy something like this: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-w...watercooling-kit-3831109863480-wc-99c-ek.html
Or build a system from parts?
I'm not planning on water cooling the graphics card, just the CPU.
I also read that a lot of people were having issues with CAM. So that put me off the Kraken because of it GoRedwings19.
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robin66> It more of a case of pick your poison nzxt or corsair software. Both at various times have either worked flawlessly or been a bug riddled mess. I can only speak for myself others here might have had no issues with either company software. In fact I love corsair products I just hate their software. I am sure once I get past the RGB phase I will just go back to my predator or dh15.
I cannot say that corsair software is better than nzxt or vice versa. And if you though they were bad it nothing compare to aura sync. It doesn't even detect my motherboard let alone control the RGB of it. But funnily enough it is the only program that I have used so far that can control my trident z lighting. I tried G.skill software but it didn't even detect the ram so I gave up. Honestly I would not rather use any of them.
What we need is a web based browser which controls all the products in one lot.
As for the h115i pro rgb platinum I am not sure. I tend not to watch him as he comes across as a corsair fanboy I have yet to seen him ever critiscise a Corsair product. He is also a well known Asus fanboy as well.
Take a look into the ML pro RGB being not as good as the ML pro's. I just stick the non RGB Ml pros on most of my coolers.
I cannot say that corsair software is better than nzxt or vice versa. And if you though they were bad it nothing compare to aura sync. It doesn't even detect my motherboard let alone control the RGB of it. But funnily enough it is the only program that I have used so far that can control my trident z lighting. I tried G.skill software but it didn't even detect the ram so I gave up. Honestly I would not rather use any of them.
What we need is a web based browser which controls all the products in one lot.
As for the h115i pro rgb platinum I am not sure. I tend not to watch him as he comes across as a corsair fanboy I have yet to seen him ever critiscise a Corsair product. He is also a well known Asus fanboy as well.
Take a look into the ML pro RGB being not as good as the ML pro's. I just stick the non RGB Ml pros on most of my coolers.
Sorry, it's late and my meds make me drowsy. I meant to link to this: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-w...watercooling-kit-3831109863480-wc-99c-ek.html
I've edited the link in my original post also.
I agree software can be such a hit and miss. I had to uninstall EVGA's precision earlier today. As it was stopping Forza Horizon 4 from starting.
Considering both are rated 95w TDP I can't see how you would have a problem cooling with Dark Rock Pro 4 which is rated 250w TDP. But that is assuming whatever case you use you change fan placement or maybe have to replace stock fans with higher pressure rated fans so case will have good airflow and cooler gets air at or near room temp. I have yet to build a system that I didn't need to change the stock fan placement or get better fans to get good case airflow.
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They're only rated 95w at their base clocks as far as I'm aware. Boosting will take them over that.
Deceptive marketing for sure, but the 95w tdp doesnt mean much.
True, in my defense my answer was to DazzaFG question,
"Are we reaching the limits for air cooling with the i7-9700/i9-9900 (No OC)? was thinking of a Dark Rock 4 Pro."
So no overclock involved there and 155w of headroom in cooler.Still, a cooler designed to cool up to 250w on a 95w CPU stock leaves lots of cooling to be used before reaching cooler rating. An additonal 155w of cooling abilty should be enough for a pretty good overclocks .. assuming it's not poor overclocking chip.
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I'm not questioning what you've said, i agree with that.
It's the intel TDP rating i take issue with. I think the tdp for the 9 series chips applies to just the base clock.
This means that even 1 core boosting to 5ghz, as it is designed to do with the 9900k, takes the cpu over 95w as far as i can tell. And since this is standard behaviour for the cpu it shouldnt be considered an overclock.
The TDP of 95w is ridiculous since it only applies if you limit the cpu in a way that few users will ever do.
In fact, for the 9900k to turbo to 4.7 on all cores as it is allowed to do per advertised specs, no overclocking, the tdp threshold is 210w!
Turbo is standard behaviour for any recent cpu so intel listing it as a 95w part when out of the box it will turbo is utter bs.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13400/intel-9th-gen-core-i9-9900k-i7-9700k-i5-9600k-review/21
First paragraph of link you supplied saysI'm not questioning what you've said, i agree with that.
It's the intel TDP rating i take issue with. I think the tdp for the 9 series chips applies to just the base clock.
This means that even 1 core boosting to 5ghz, as it is designed to do with the 9900k, takes the cpu over 95w as far as i can tell. And since this is standard behaviour for the cpu it shouldnt be considered an overclock.
The TDP of 95w is ridiculous since it only applies if you limit the cpu in a way that few users will ever do.
In fact, for the 9900k to turbo to 4.7 on all cores as it is allowed to do per advertised specs, no overclocking, the tdp threshold is 210w!
Turbo is standard behaviour for any recent cpu so intel listing it as a 95w part when out of the box it will turbo is utter bs.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13400/intel-9th-gen-core-i9-9900k-i7-9700k-i5-9600k-review/21
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The link i supplied includes the technical details for the intel tdp states. 95w being lowest and 210w being boost. This is still accurate.
I linked to the page because that is where i drew my info from.
The board anand used in their testing doesn't change the intel base tdp or the fact that the tdp limit for going beyond that base clock increases to 210w.
I think the key here is it is 95w TDP normal use. Running a torture test with all cores/threads at 100% load is not the kind of load many if any of us will ever run in actual use. Tom's Hardware testing said
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-9900k-9th-gen-cpu,5847-11.html
With air coolers having TDP rating of up to about 350w we have about 100w more cooling ability than CPU made.
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In other words, the only way any tester reaches 200+ watts is torture testing or overclocking.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-9900k-9th-gen-cpu,5847-11.html
With air coolers having TDP rating of up to about 350w we have about 100w more cooling ability than CPU made.
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50c while not bad is no big deal for a 360mm radiator, and H115i 3x 120mm fans are creating their own cool airflow but feeding case with heated air. You are c cooling CPU at the expense of pushing heated air into case for GPU and and other components to cool with.
Are you going to do the same setup in H700 or put radiator in top as exhaust?