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i7 980x for rendering or something else?

Thank you for posting Cinebench results and links PC bundles.

After what you mentioned i think the Xeon route for me wont be suitable, the i7980x is definately better.

To be honest i am quite looking forward to building it myself, my first PC was an Packard Bell that was brilliant for upgrades - constantly enjoyed fiddling about with that. But my second Packard Bell was so limited and i havent upgraded at all. The only thing i am worried about is fitting the CPU, so i will have to do my research first and take my time!

I noticed on another post that the i7 990x will be out soon and a "sandybridge?". One comment mentioned it would be mad to purchase an i7 980x at the minute - i appreciate that technology moves quickly; but will i be stupid to purchase soon, which will probably be just before my holiday in August so that i can start building?

Rumour has it that the i7 970 is just around the corner (Q3 2010), and because it's not an 'Extreme Edition' should give you 6 cored goodness at a 'cheaper' price. It might be worth holding on to see how it pans out :), though you should take everything with a pinch of salt.
 
As per admoo's post more cost effective 6 core i7's are in the pipeline, just not sure when they are actually going to be available.
 
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Thank you. I think i might hang on for a bit then to see if there is a cheaper version, which will suit me nicely as i was not planning on doing anything until August.
 
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I have just been comparing the i7 980x with a Xeon W3680, they are very similar except that the Xeon supports ECC memory and the 980x does not. Also the Xeon supports more memory types and has better bandwidth;

Seeing as they are almost identical in price and specification, do you think that the Xeon would be better for 3D regarding the memory. Also is this Xeon ovcerclockable like the 980x. I appreciate that Evil-I mentioned about Xeons earlier, but now i cant seem to see which is best? Would it also be a problem to buy a overclocking motherboard for a Xeon?
 
Covering earlier posts:

I have just been comparing the i7 980x with a Xeon W3680, they are very similar except that the Xeon supports ECC memory and the 980x does not. Also the Xeon supports more memory types and has better bandwidth;

Seeing as they are almost identical in price and specification, do you think that the Xeon would be better for 3D regarding the memory. Also is this Xeon ovcerclockable like the 980x. I appreciate that Evil-I mentioned about Xeons earlier, but now i cant seem to see which is best? Would it also be a problem to buy a overclocking motherboard for a Xeon?

I'm not sure there is any advantage to ECC memory in this case, in fact only a disadvantage in that it tends to be much more expensive and you have less choice. ECC memory is designed to combat soft errors which are apparently caused by cosmic rays and background radiation (i only read about this so can't confirm its validity). But it seems that if you have a server running 24/7 the ecc memory is heavily recommended as this sort of error might happen once a month or so (and worst case might cause a BSOD), but based in a situation like yours, I'd suggest that it is unlikely to give you much of an improvement in reliability and theoretically will actually slow the machine down slightly.

I'm not entirely sure if normal i7 based motherboard will support the Xeon W3680? They have the same pin layout but the Xeons are quoted as socket FCLGA1366 whilst the i7s are quoted as LGA1366 (which may be the same thing of course...), no idea if there are any differences? So can't really help you there I'm afraid.

So we're again back to the scenario where if you have to buy a Xeon specific motherboard the overclocking options are non existent, and based on the fact that you can make a £200 cpu perform like a £600 cpu with the appropriate tweaking, its worth taking that fact in to account. I think you will have similar constraints with ECC memory, you probably won't get very high speed memory in ECC flavour.

To be honest my friend, the danger we all run is that we spend all our time staring at performance figures and reviews, and what's coming round the corner and actually never end up buying anything. I've started to try and ignore what's coming a little and then work out what bang I can get for my money and what's the best value (not necessarily the cheapest).

My overclocked i7 920 running at 4.2Ghz is giving me the performance of the upper end quad core i7's at stock speed, I couldn't justify spending another £300-400 for maybe a ten percent increase in performance. I'd rather save that money so in another 18 months time when the next shiniest CPU comes out that doubles the performance of my current i7 I can upgrade to that earlier.

Would I buy the newest shiniest most expensive CPU if I had unlimited money? Course I bloody would ;-) I'd probably buy a box full, so if you do have the money I'd suggest the i7980x simply because then you can make it go even faster with a bit of tweaking, which I'm not sure you'd be able to do with the Xeon.

The other thing of course is that compared to your current rig, a rig like mine is faster by about a factor of 10 (**edit actualy nearer a factor of twenty once I checked the results again**)... That's quite a significant improvement anyway!

Have fun buying whatever you decide ;-)

Best,

E-I
 
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Why does no one suggest the AMD 6 core for about a 6th of the price?

or am I just being dumb ;)

Only reason I haven't mentioned it is that I have no idea how efficient it is for 3D rendering? The i7s have the potential advantage of hyperthreading, although when I did the render tests as per earlier in this post I'm not sure if hyperthreading actually helps in 3d stuff? I will say that whilst doing the test all eight of my task manager cpu's were showing as being maxed out.

Has anyone got a AMD 6core they can run the cinebench 10 benchmark on for comparison?

E-I
 
Found this post. Check out the big benchmark table, gives loads of results for various cpus and software.

I was very happy to see my overclocked i7-920 cinebench score is faster than the i7-975x and only about 15% behind the i7-980x at stock :-)

That's made my day!

E-I
 
Thank you. I am my own worst enemy - i read into things too much and like you said never get anything. Its my first build and i think i may be being over cautious. I dont fully know what i am doing to be honest and this could end up being the most expensive disaster of my life!

I wont change my mind again and so it will be the 980x!!
 
You can save so much money if you're willing to wait a bit longer with your render times. I do tons of rendering and usually try and do it over night, where times and speeds doesn't matter too much. However, if you have the cash and don't mind spending it you will be very happy with the 980x
 
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