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I9 -9900K Benchmarks leaked

It would have to include a hardware solution to the recent exploits for my interest to pique. I can't see it being much of an upgrade over my 5960x either, which is a shame because I'm ready to invest in a new system but nothing feels quite worth it yet.
 
eddiew said:
So they reckon they'll OC to 5ghz without much effort? Nice to know that there will be an easy upgrade out there if I ever do cap out the 6c/12t in the current gen :)

Unless Ryzen 3000 is amazing, obviously, but tbh I'm not expecting it to break 5ghz until the generation after.
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I'm not going to hold my breath for this ^^

AMD's clock increases of late, the RX's 400 to 500 series & the Ryzen to Ryzen refresh clocks have been hardly worth mentioning. It's the same with manual overclocks, AMD are pushing their hardware very close to the limit out of the box. Look at the 2700x it's got a claimed 4.35 boost speed but actual all core speeds are not much better than the 1800x's.
 
Amd will either reach or be real close to 5 big ones next year, they will have an improved core possibly by as much as 15% and hopefully that will also involve improving core to core latency which does hit gamers who we no know are by far the most important group of users.

Zen+ was always going to be a small interim update, its done well but the biggie is next year.
 
Does Ryzen or Zen have fewer variables now than it had previously? Between different boards, bios’s and optimum RAM speed it sounded horrific to try and optimise.
 
MyBrains said:
I think its more about Katch Up than Sauce :D
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It's amazing, I keep reading everywhere how Zen2 in 2019 is going to "finish" Intel off. and be the next king.
Looking for some sort of science to back that up.
Me personally I think we will see a 12 core desktop CPU still bumbling along around 4Ghz. I've not seen any evidence to the contrary!
 
If Zen 2 brings 4.5Ghz all core then that'll be good enough for me, IF IPC is thereabouts on par with Intel.

I think IPC, latency and memory needs to be more of a priority than clock speeds.

Then again my 2700X (4.0Ghz all core with 1.25v) is part of my streaming PC now so these thing are not much of an issue for me, i kept my 6700K (ironically, 4.5Ghz with 1.25v lol) for my gaming PC.

I wont be getting an i9, though Icelake might be tempting for the gaming PC.
 
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nashathedog said:
I'm not going to hold my breath for this ^^

AMD's clock increases of late, the RX's 400 to 500 series & the Ryzen to Ryzen refresh clocks have been hardly worth mentioning. It's the same with manual overclocks, AMD are pushing their hardware very close to the limit out of the box. Look at the 2700x it's got a claimed 4.35 boost speed but actual all core speeds are not much better than the 1800x's.
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Agreed. Also Intel's past process shrinks have done almost nothing to change overclocks. Good Sandybridge chip, 5.0 - good Coffeelake chip, 5.2.

Asking AMD to deliver an 800mhz increase in stock clocks on the first iteration of a process shrink is pretty savage. Whether they can bump IPC is another question, but it would need 19% to make their 4.2 match Intel's 5.0... That's a lot outside of a totally new architecture. They might meet it somewhere in the middle; squeezing out a solid 4.5 all-core boost with a 5-8% IPC boost on top is within realms of possibility.
 
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eddiew said:
Agreed. Also Intel's past process shrinks have done almost nothing to change overclocks. Good Sandybridge chip, 5.0 - good Coffeelake chip, 5.2.

Asking AMD to deliver an 800mhz increase in stock clocks on the first iteration of a process shrink is pretty savage. Whether they can bump IPC is another question, but it would need 19% to make their 4.2 match Intel's 5.0... That's a lot outside of a totally new architecture. They might meet it somewhere in the middle; squeezing out a solid 4.5 all-core boost with a 5-8% IPC boost on top is within realms of possibility.
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Ryzen's done really well for AMD & hopefully they're not going to lose focus on Ryzen's development as they work to make their gpu hardware competitive again.
That said I've gotta admit that I look at the size of the price drops on the 1000 series Ryzens and wonder if things are as rosy as I think they are.
 
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