i9-9900k only $534/£500

[AndreiD]

You never know, we might be going back to lapped chips

 

[SiDeards73]

That's literally how all corporations work, they are legally bound to care about their shareholders first and foremost, not just Intel.
And it's weird that you think that cutting production on high margin consumer part will net them higher net profits than if they shipped the product in volume.

Who said anything about cutting production? lol... of course they wont, but they can create an artificial case of supply constraint, all they need to do is suggest that some of their lines will suffer, they dont need to specify which, then slow some shipments down and voila....

Its not like many companies do not do these things, its part of business.

 

[AndreiD]

That's what I mean, slowing down shipments also means decreased revenue, why would they do that? The 8700K shortages supposedly happened because they rushed it to market, I wonder if that's going to happen again.

I think logically the only parts they will cut from a process if they're at capacity are going to be the low margin ones, but desktop isn't really low margin, not when they can sell <200mm2 dies for £300 a pop.

 

[SiDeards73]

That's what I mean, slowing down shipments also means decreased revenue, why would they do that? The 8700K shortages supposedly happened because they rushed it to market, I wonder if that's going to happen again.

I think logically the only parts they will cut from a process if they're at capacity are going to be the low margin ones, but desktop isn't really low margin, not when they can sell <200mm2 dies for £300 a pop.

This is correct but there is nothing like a bit of panic to get people buying. Intel can *suggest* proposed delays to a line, quite easily without being obvious and that in itself will create a demand from people on the fence wanting to jump in before scarcity band price rises, that then actually creates demand and can influence price rises.

Intel has already laid the foundation for price hikes, they let it slip they have a capacity issue potentially, they haven't and probably won't say what this affects. They can hike the prices of any 14nm products now and say it's due to these issues. Why would they not? It's not like they won't still sell everything they make.

It's not uncommon for something to inceincr in value for a perceived rarity, even if infact it is not lol

 

[AndreiD]

They didn't suggest anything though, they cut H310 shipments and the rumor mill did its thing to blow it out of proportion.

And that would work if they didn't have competition to meet said demand.

 

[Troezar]

We've all had the emails:

"Hurry don't delay"
"Don't miss out"
"Limited time offer"
"Last chance for a great deal"

They do it because it works, not on everyone but enough to boost sales. My favourite is where they tell you that spending money will save you money. It's like some kind of Jedi mind trick!

 

[ToonarmY87]

I am looking to upgrade from a 2500k I have had running at 4.5ghz for 8 years. The cpu is starting to show its age in games like battlefield etc bottlenecking my 1060 6gb.

I planned on getting a 9th gen cpu but I read the below link they are now delayed to 2019. Can anyone confirm this?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....-generation-processors-delayed-till-2019/amp/

Should I wait?

 

[NinjaCool]

We've all had the emails:

"Hurry don't delay"
"Don't miss out"
"Limited time offer"
"Last chance for a great deal"

They do it because it works, not on everyone but enough to boost sales. My favourite is where they tell you that spending money will save you money. It's like some kind of Jedi mind trick!

It is common sense according to Nvidia's CEO that the more you buy, the more you save!

 

[humbug]

Good Grief.... he really does think he knows his user base.

 

[smilingcrow]

This is correct but there is nothing like a bit of panic to get people buying. Intel can *suggest* proposed delays to a line, quite easily without being obvious and that in itself will create a demand from people on the fence wanting to jump in before scarcity band price rises, that then actually creates demand and can influence price rises.
Intel has already laid the foundation for price hikes, they let it slip they have a capacity issue potentially, they haven't and probably won't say what this affects. They can hike the prices of any 14nm products now and say it's due to these issues. Why would they not? It's not like they won't still sell everything they make.

The vast bulk of Intel’s CPUs go to OEMs so I don’t see them gaining much by attempting to manipulate the non-OEM market.
Especially when you consider that the price gouging tends to come from retailers and possibly wholesalers rather than manufacturers.
So unless Intel raise the wholesale tray price there’s nothing to see here.
But when you consider they are facing serious competition from AMD especially in terms of value for money it seems like an odd time to increase prices.
But people do like to speculate wildly on these forums.

 

[AndreiD]

@smilingcrow +1 to that

@ToonarmY87 just typical rumour fud before any release, the launch shouldn't be far off considering we're seeing a lot of bench results 'leak' with samples clocked at what you'd expect retail SKUs to be clocked at (usually engineering samples are clocked lower). That does indicate launch is close, probably around October.