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IB vs Haswell

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What's expected from Haswell because IB is only a 5-10% increase from SB..
What would you like to see and will you be waiting or going for SB/IB?
 
coughs said:
What's expected from Haswell because IB is only a 5-10% increase from SB..
What would you like to see and will you be waiting or going for SB/IB?
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IB is tick of SB so IB results are as expected as it is minor improvement over SB in cpu performance department. However Haswell being a new architecture (which I will be buying hopefully for my 2nd build) should be providing nice performance increase over IB although imo double performance unlikely. More like maybe 30-35% improvement over IB and also utilises new instructions set AVX2 iirc.

DaGooN said:
Think i will wait for the 14 nm and 10 nm processes..
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Hey thats skylake and skymont lol ;):p
 
Haswell is concentrating on IGP performance even more - so I would not expect massive gains in the CPU section. They will probably try to improve the efficiency of the CPU even more so more of the TDP budget can be spent on the IGP.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Haswell is concentrating on IGP performance even more - so I would not expect massive gains in the CPU section.
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Would you say that in those applications which made use of AVX2 instruction sets, Haswell will be twice as quick as SB/IB?

It's likely that Haswell may well overclock better than SB/IB.
 
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Would you say that in those applications which made use of AVX2 instruction sets, Haswell will be twice as quick as SB/IB?
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Its hard to say whether theoretical performance improvements will be matched in real world applications.

It seems that Haswell will use a tweaked version of the CPU section of SB and IB:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1205858/obr-haswell-die-size-revealed

This is not surprising as Sandy Bridge was not a huge single thread IPC increase over Lynnfield - the IPC increase was mostly down to uncore improvements. The 32NM process did however mean higher stock clockspeeds.

Intel is concentrating more and more on IGP improvements,so I expect a more efficient CPU section,so more of the entire TDP can be devoted to the IGP.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Its hard to say whether theoretical performance improvements will be matched in real world applications.

It seems that Haswell will use a tweaked version of the CPU section of SB and IB:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1205858/obr-haswell-die-size-revealed

This is not surprising as Sandy Bridge was not a huge single thread IPC increase over Lynnfield - the IPC increase was mostly down to uncore improvements. The 32NM process did however mean higher stock clockspeeds.

Intel is concentrating more and more on IGP improvements,so I expect a more efficient CPU section,so more of the entire TDP can be devoted to the IGP.
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Yeah I read this thread a while back. If it is still utilising SB/IB architecture to an extent, then it's likely that Haswell may well be lableled '4th Gen Intel Core family processor(s)' :p

Seems like Intel and Core have become synonymous brothers :p
 
Haswell with have a tiny CPU section, massive GPU section. Stock will be fine, overclock a little and it just catches fire whilst your CPU cooler stays perfectly cool because so little heat is reaching the surface of it.

Everyone complains, people search for used 2500ks which by 2013 will be fetching thousands of pounds each as hardened overclockers keep the good old days alive when GPUs were rammed into your motherboard rather than the CPU and you could head towards 5ghz with a £25 air cooler...
 
the_director said:
Haswell with have a tiny CPU section, massive GPU section. Stock will be fine, overclock a little and it just catches fire whilst your CPU cooler stays perfectly cool because so little heat is reaching the surface of it.

Everyone complains, people search for used 2500ks which by 2013 will be fetching thousands of pounds each as hardened overclockers keep the good old days alive when GPUs were rammed into your motherboard rather than the CPU and you could head towards 5ghz with a £25 air cooler...
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You sir, are a hero. :cool:
 
Don't forget Ivybridge-E then late this year. 22nm version of SB-E, no GPU...

That could actually be quite an attractive chip this time round. At least it focuses on what us enthusiasts feel is important.
 
Haswell will deliver much stronger graphics than IB, however it's entirely up to Intel how much more processing power it gets... which in turn is dependent on how good Piledriver is. If Piledriver beats 3770K, and it has good single core performance then I think we can expect to see Intel do more with Haswell. Bulldozer flapping about pathetically caused Intel to lower the TDP for IB, and no significant CPU boost to appear.
 
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