Identify this Gadget?

[wildman]

I've actually removed my fax number from my contact details because when anyone has ever sent a fax in the past the fax machine is built into the bulk office copier and all that happens is someone picks it up and shoves it in the paper bin thinking someone's printed something out and not collected it. Then a couple of days later I get a call asking if I got the fax. *rage*

same problem in my office, our fax is built into a massive high speed canon image runner, any fax that gets sent is swallowed by the 1000 + pages that dullards who can't review electronic on screen documents print out every 15 to 20 minutes !!!!!

The people in my office make the rain forests cry !!!

 

[RomanNose]

So is fax completely redundant or does it have any advantages over email?

 

[Jokester]

So is fax completely redundant or does it have any advantages over email?

It tends to be older people that rather than scan/pdf and email, it will instead just directly fax a paper copy of something.

 

[QlimaxUK]

Try using one of these on it

 

[RetiredGreyFox]

So is fax completely redundant or does it have any advantages over email?

Funnily enough there is still an old fashioned Data Protection attitude.
Somebody could fax me very personal medical details of a patient and of course that would be on show to everybody in the office but attaching a file to an email is frowned upon even though we are on a secure VPN tunnel or something.
Even encrypting the file and attaching is not advised even though the password could take up to 57 years to hack.

I made an encrypted patients records cd disk today and a certain person came to pick it up.
I also handed them a seperate piece of paper with the password on so my job is done.
Just before they left they picked up a pen and wrote the password on the disk wallet

 

[RomanNose]

Funnily enough there is still an old fashioned Data Protection attitude.
Somebody could fax me very personal medical details of a patient and of course that would be on show to everybody in the office but attaching a file to an email is frowned upon even though we are on a secure VPN tunnel or something.
Even encrypting the file and attaching is not advised even though the password could take up to 57 years to hack.

I made an encrypted patients records cd disk today and a certain person came to pick it up.
I also handed them a seperate piece of paper with the password on so my job is done.
Just before they left they picked up a pen and wrote the password on the disk wallet

57 years? I am worried about what kind of encryption is used as 256 bit is hundreds of thousands of years.
The biggest security risk is peoples stupidity lol .
I guess the problem with encryption is that you will still need to send the password, or is it that you have keys for each day so it can only be opened on that day?

 

[King Damager]

Just before they left they picked up a pen and wrote the password on the disk wallet

oh, classic xD

Most photocopiers have fax machines built in. I don't see why you'd scan and email over faxing, apart from I guess if you scan and email you can guarantee the person will receive it....

kd

 

[RomanNose]

oh, classic xD

Most photocopiers have fax machines built in. I don't see why you'd scan and email over faxing, apart from I guess if you scan and email you can guarantee the person will receive it....

kd

Can't fax be intercepted?

 

[RetiredGreyFox]

57 years? I am worried about what kind of encryption is used as 256 bit is hundreds of thousands of years.
The biggest security risk is peoples stupidity lol .
I guess the problem with encryption is that you will still need to send the password, or is it that you have keys for each day so it can only be opened on that day?

I don't know what kind of encryption it is, I just put the password into an online password checker and it said '57 years'.

 

[Soundood]

enigma machine?

 

[RomanNose]

I don't know what kind of encryption it is, I just put the password into an online password checker and it said '57 years'.

Passwords are so weak, everyone should be using keys .

 

[wildman]

Passwords are so weak, everyone should be using keys .

we tried that at work and had to scrap it. Users either rocked up to the office without their tokens or came in every other week asking for a new one as they put their old one though the washing machine in their trouser pockets

 

[bitslice]

I also handed them a seperate piece of paper with the password on so my job is done.
Just before they left they picked up a pen and wrote the password on the disk wallet

Doesn't that break the NHS security policy ?

 

[King Damager]

Passwords are so weak, everyone should be using keys .

Rubbish. Biometric security.....

kd

 

[Woden]

Rubbish. Biometric security.....

kd

As good an idea that is, I guarantee people will jump on the Orwellian bandwagon. At work the agency staff use their hand-print/whatever to sign in instead of a clock-card (a lot of "you clock for me, i clock for you" going on) and people are already going on about big brother etc.

 

[Philtor]

Here let them figure out why most peeps get MRSA in hospital before confusing them with technology.

 

[Pawnless Endgame]

My department (7 people in 2 adjacent rooms) share a fax machine and we still use it every day. It tends to be used for invoices / orders.

I remember my family were discussing fax back in 1994, saying how it will kick off big time. It didn't really kick off at home as email was just around the corner but it did well in the office environment for the next 15 years. Advantage of fax was being able to send a document in the time it takes to make a short phone call and you didn't have to be tech-savvy to operate it.

 

[Philtor]

I remember my family were discussing fax back in 1994, saying how it will kick off big time.

I thought email was the best thing ever. Seemingly Facebake is **runs away**

 

[piggeh]

oh, classic xD

Most photocopiers have fax machines built in. I don't see why you'd scan and email over faxing, apart from I guess if you scan and email you can guarantee the person will receive it....

kd

To be honest, a fax machine is another piece of equipment that can go wrong, we have 20 faxes in our company, I can't wait until we go to fax over IP or similar, as it's a headache whenever one goes wrong as there's no back up and stuff just gets lost. If you had a system where faxes went to email, you would have a server retry sending it or hold on the server until you retrieve it, no extra hardware to buy/maintain, no additional phonelines, etc.

If you consider if it's a patient referral - if its a fax it will just sit on a machine somewhere and potentially get lost. If you have it on email you can pick it up from anywhere and have a back up copy you can pull off if you need it.

 

[2bit]

To be honest, a fax machine is another piece of equipment that can go wrong, we have 20 faxes in our company, I can't wait until we go to fax over IP or similar, as it's a headache whenever one goes wrong as there's no back up and stuff just gets lost. If you had a system where faxes went to email, you would have a server retry sending it or hold on the server until you retrieve it, no extra hardware to buy/maintain, no additional phonelines, etc.

If you consider if it's a patient referral - if its a fax it will just sit on a machine somewhere and potentially get lost. If you have it on email you can pick it up from anywhere and have a back up copy you can pull off if you need it.

These systems seem to cause you much pain.