Its nothing to do with DSC. Its called having the capability for thought and judgement. When I was gingerly driving up the hill with kids around throwing snowballs, that was not a time to use the phone. While I was driving at 10mph along the wide, clear open road with not a soul in sight, that, unsurprisingly, was a relative safe time to use the phone. Of all the demands placed on a driver, trundling along at 10 while on the phone should not be the greatest of them! I could have shut my eyes and had a 99% chance of making it safe.
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But you want us to care about your views on phone usage?
Then you imagine wrong.
Please dont assume that just because you find the concept of holding a telephone difficult everyone else does.
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And if while you're on the phone at this safe time, some kids throwing snowballs run into the road ahead, you immediately get off the phone? You wouldn't.
But the whole point being made is that there is a time and a place where using a phone is no more dangerous than.. not using a phone. Nobody is suggesting that negotiating rush hour traffic whilst engaged in divorce proceedings on a handheld phone is safe.
However, before the days of integrated Bluetooth (Which I've had for years so no, my opinions are not from somebody who uses a handheld phone when driving) I often used to make the odd 3-4 minute phone call whilst travelling at a steady 70mph along a quiet Motorway, or when sitting in a tailback, and I didn't kill any kids.
However, before the days of integrated Bluetooth (Which I've had for years so no, my opinions are not from somebody who uses a handheld phone when driving) I often used to make the odd 3-4 minute phone call whilst travelling at a steady 70mph along a quiet Motorway, or when sitting in a tailback, and I didn't kill any kids.
I have a fully integrated bluetooth system in my car which even pauses the current track on my Ipod and allows voice dialling. It is completely legal but I personally don't think its any 'safer' than having the same conversation on a handheld phone.
The phone thing was a kneejerk reaction, were there ever any proper statistics for the use of phones and accidents?
The phone thing was a kneejerk reaction, were there ever any proper statistics for the use of phones and accidents?
I can text, send an email via my billberry, use 2 phones at once in a conference, eat some crisps while sipping a coffee and listening to an audio book doing 120mph in the outside lane of an empty motorway....in reverse.....injecting Anadin. Because of my STUPID flat bottom steering wheel I can sadly no longer steer with my knees at the same time! When you've been driving for 23 years you'll have them skills too. 
Because of my STUPID flat bottom steering wheel I can sadly no longer steer with my knees at the same time! When you've been driving for 23 years you'll have them skills too.
ah, that sucks. steering with knees is great, and can come in useful if you're fiddling with something, such as a bottle of water or a map..
I tried but it was simply useless and I ended up loosing it and ploughing into a line of special needs children outside the famous "School for people with crappy lives". If I hadn't have been speeding I'd have missed them and taken out some baby ducks so not all bad.
I think the research I was referring to was a merely psychological one.
They tested peoples ability to complete tasks while talking on a mobile, and it showed nearly a TOTAL inability, because of the way you use a phone, you 'imagine' the other end and cannot focus on the present, hence why it is so much more different than just chatting in your car.
It is like when Darren Brown passed over a wad of paper in that jewelery store, while asking for directions. The shop owners mind was elsewhere and so missed the important detail in the present. Its something to do with conceptualizing something else, I think.
I do not think this is the one, but its kinda what I am getting at:
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co..._mobile_use_as_dangerous_as_drinkdriving.html
They tested peoples ability to complete tasks while talking on a mobile, and it showed nearly a TOTAL inability, because of the way you use a phone, you 'imagine' the other end and cannot focus on the present, hence why it is so much more different than just chatting in your car.
It is like when Darren Brown passed over a wad of paper in that jewelery store, while asking for directions. The shop owners mind was elsewhere and so missed the important detail in the present. Its something to do with conceptualizing something else, I think.
I do not think this is the one, but its kinda what I am getting at:
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co..._mobile_use_as_dangerous_as_drinkdriving.html
There's been more than one ocassion where a traffic scenario has made me put my phone on the seat while driving. I tend to make most calls while on the motorway or while stationary, and anything that has required me to raise my awareness (say, a sudden reduction in speed due to a tailback) has resulted in me putting the phone down.
My personal circumstances aren't that important as, like Fox, I normally use Bluetooth. It's very occasionally that I won't be.
It's the same as speeding really. There's a time and a place where it can be considered safe, but it's far easier to create one blanket law that prohibits it, for the sake of "ultimate safety".
Like Fox, I'll use it briefly on the motorway if need be, holding it in my right hand so I can steer/indicate properly, it's around town that I wonder how people (who have manual gearboxes anyway), can do all this, plus hold a phone
Like Fox, I'll use it briefly on the motorway if need be, holding it in my right hand so I can steer/indicate properly, it's around town that I wonder how people (who have manual gearboxes anyway), can do all this, plus hold a phone