If bicycles are banned from commuter trains, why aren't pushchairs?
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What if the child is asleep? Even if the child is awake, if they cant walk, you wont be able to fold up the pushchair (or re-assemble it) whilst holding a child.
I normally try and avoid commuting times when travelling on public transport with my kids, especially the tube as it gets horrendously crowded. Sometimes it cant be avoided though.
Puschairs are obviously in a completely different category from bikes, and it is bizzare to compare them. You might as well say why don't disabled people travel in fold up wheel chairs.
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Trains should have a bike/luggage carriage like they used to though.
Oh dear.
So comparing bikes to pushchairs is absured, but comparing pushchairs to wheelchairs is aparetly a perfectly fine leap to make... 
This is a sensible suggestion that has come up a few times in this thread.
This is a sensible suggestion that has come up a few times in this thread.
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Its always fun to throw something like this into GD and see what happens, especially something that rubs the "as a parent" brigade up the wrong way.
If bicycles are banned from commuter trains, why aren't mothers?
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So comparing bikes to pushchairs is absured, but comparing pushchairs to wheelchairs is aparetly a perfectly fine leap to make...
Just pick up the bits you want to read and ignore the rest (i.e. the justification)
A cyclist can still travel without the bike, some babies cannot travel without the pushchair, due to weight and the amount of extra/guff equipment that needs to be carried to look after it (read: keep it alive).
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Its always fun to throw something like this into GD and see what happens, especially something that rubs the "as a parent" brigade up the wrong way
I think you'll find that's called trolling and is against the forum rules
Not quite a carriage, but South West Trains have carriages that have specific locations for bikes and buggies. What is frustrating is when there are people sitting there (fold down seats), and they don't move when someone gets on with a bike. The cyclist rarely has the courage to ask them to move either, so they end up holding the bike across the carriage blocking people when they get on and off.
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I don't mind it if people have bikes and/or pushchairs on trains so long as they're out the way and/or folded up.
I witnessed this a while back on the train:
Inconsiderate ****, even more so when you realise it's a fold up bike.
I witnessed this a while back on the train:
Inconsiderate ****, even more so when you realise it's a fold up bike.
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I would ban tourists, fat people, mothers and school children. Fat tourists with children would be criminal offence. (in peak times)
itll never happen, cyclists got screwed over ~15 years ago when the slam shuts were retired. these days its maximum seats for maximum profit.
looks like theres still a reasonable gap to walk through? unless you need to lay off the pies
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looks like theres still a reasonable gap to walk through? unless you need to lay off the pies
Side ways to get past but the handlebars stick out.
It fell over and got walk over later on though, so karma and all that.
I have a fold-up Dahon bike and even when folded it's a PITA if the train is busy; having to force my way past people lugging the folded bike about.
Not once have I left it unfolded on the train as in the pic above, takes 20 seconds to collapse on the platform whilst waiting for the train, plus it's more stable so won't fall over.
Fortunately I don't work "rush-hour" hours so busy trains are a rarity for me, thank god!
Not once have I left it unfolded on the train as in the pic above, takes 20 seconds to collapse on the platform whilst waiting for the train, plus it's more stable so won't fall over.
Fortunately I don't work "rush-hour" hours so busy trains are a rarity for me, thank god!
Commuting is hell. No arguments here!
But the obvious answer anyone would give before chucking push chairs off trains is GET ANOTHER JOB!
Unfortunately, that's the classic defense. It is, after all, your choice to commute to work in this way.
I'm pretty much in agreement with the rage to be completely honest.
Just playing devil's advocate to prove a point.
Luckily I'm only here for 5 months before going back to the farm! There is no way on earth I could keep doing this for years and years. It really is madness.
Getting to the point where I'd almost rather go and work in wetherspoons round the corner for the last 2 months.
Which TOC?
The ones i travel on all have space for bicycles. FGW HST have a separate compartment for 6 bikes, so certainly not taking up any room. Prams/buggys have to go in the normal compartments and squash up somewhere. Then the XC Voyagers have 3 hanging spaces for bikes, again out of the way for the rest of the carriage, so not in anyones way.
The ones i travel on all have space for bicycles. FGW HST have a separate compartment for 6 bikes, so certainly not taking up any room. Prams/buggys have to go in the normal compartments and squash up somewhere. Then the XC Voyagers have 3 hanging spaces for bikes, again out of the way for the rest of the carriage, so not in anyones way.
It is disgustingly bad.
- The people who have no respect for one another on the train.
- The expectation of delay: Yes it is THAT bad that your employer doesn't mind if you come in an hour late because trains suck and everybody knows it.
- The busyness is off the scale at peak times D: Literally sardines sometimes.
And last but by no means least
- Dat pricetag. Remind me again why we pay so much for London trains (my ticket costs me £340 a month btw) when it's THIS bad and we are forced to just be ok with it?!? What are we paying for exactly?
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Some routes are far worse than others, my current route is not so bad. In the mornings if i catch the fast train from romford to stratford it can take 6 mins and ill get a seat. If i catch slow train it can take 18mins to get to stratford but usually ill have a seat. Then on the central line its not so bad at that time often ill get a seat, but takes 20 further mins.
The way home is far worse, struggle to get on the train at chancery lane, usually one or two trains pass before i can fit on and rarely get a seat, but once we past bank or liverpool streets i often get a seat. Then the same for the over ground train, struggle to get on and never get a seat until a few stops later.
It is definitely over priced though, £58 a week it costs me and its only 17 miles away.
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