If the charges aren't dropped....

Missing.String said:
Oh god the irony. :/

Respect isn't a given. The mere fact that someone has a certain occupation doesn't entitle them to my immediate respect. It has to be earnt. Teachers are just people like me.
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You are so wrong....

also

My bloody tax pays for them to learn so they should be BLOODY greatful as well as respectful..
 
dmpoole said:
But did you live in FEAR of the teachers like some of the younger ones in this thread think we did?
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I'm 42, and no, I didn't live in fear of them. I did respect them though (still do) and on bumping in to one of my old maths teachers in a pub several years ago, I had to actually struggle not to call him 'Sir' (and I was in my late 30s!) :)

He was an 'old school' teacher who was repected by everyone. He didn't have to beat anyone up or cane them because we all knew that he could do so and was perfectly capable of it. His reputation was enough. I will always remember noisy classes along a corridor all falling silent in order just because he was walking past the doors :D

We had other teachers that would beat you though, and I can honestly say that having been the recipient (and notice I said recipient, and not victim as so many people these days seem to think of themselves) of a number over the years, I am a perfectly happy and well adjusted adult and the parent of a grown up daughter. It didn't harm me in the long or short term, I didn't grow up resenting authority, it didn't make me a sociopath, and it didn't mentally scar me for life either.

Every time it happened, I can honestly say I deserved it, and like others in the thread, nothing was mentioned when I got home, not because of fear or intimidation from the teachers, but because of the knowledge that I'd get another clip round the ear from my dad for playing up at school.

MadMossy said:
I never feared my teachers, i respected them, the only fear i had was the cane, and it was because of that i didnt play up in lessons, i did what i was meant to do, learn!
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This is it exactly :)

Vern1961 said:
Unfortunately I fear the prospect of corporal punishment returning to schools has about as much chance as the return of hanging for murder. Would many teachers or heads these days even be prepared to wield it or would you need to employ private security personnel to administer punishment? The current breed of touchy feely wooly headed weak minded politicians have no stomach and ultimately, the concept of corporal punishment has been banned by the EU.
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I agree entirely, and I don't think it's a good thing either.

Obviously smashing a kid on the head with a weight is not a good thing, and I would never condone anything like that, but I can also honestly say that the situation would never have escalated to that level when I was at school.
 
Pestilence said:
However, it's good to see that not much changes and, instead, we have the usual ****-spouting know-it-alls screaming about how teachers have it so easy and the fantastic adage, "If they don't like it, they can find another job".

Yeah....that'll leave the Country in a fantastic academic state down the line, won't it?
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It is unfortunate that more people don't follow the "If they don't like it, they can find another job." route with bad employers. If they did then companies and occupations would start to find it very difficult to retain staff and so the conditions involved would have to change.
 
Feel sorry for the teacher to be honest. If his life was being made such hell every day at work by such charming "young people" as they now prefer to be addressed, then its no wonder he eventually snapped. (Seemingly after 20+ years of abuse and stress)

Sad for the little kid in a way, cant see him having much of a job prospect in the future beyond road sweeper/bin man, I know I wouldn't employ him!

The whole thing pretty much sums up whats wrong with the education system and society's general attitude to it. If only politicians had guts these days, maybe a radical shake-up somewhere is in order.
 
Yeah attempted murder was a bit far....

but tbh.. battering a kid with a metal weight - prob should have served another year or two... - its not like he just lashed out and punched the kid - he caused some serious damadge and could have potentially killed him therefor he's got off a bit too lightly IMO.

Still not too much sympathy for the kid tbh.. sounds like a right little ****
 
I'm happy with this too. :)

Good result imo.

I don't think a lot of people in this thread can understand what it's like for teachers, especially in inner city schools. It can be hell, and what's worse is that they are powerless to do anything about unruly kids.

At least if you were a Police officer you can nick them, or a nurse/doctor you can refuse to treat them and call the police - but a teacher? Can't do ****.
 
Common sense verdict with a common sense summing up by the judge.

The man was clearly under huge pressure and snapped and while his actions were not condonable, I hope the pupils who thought it funny to wind him up are proud of themselves.

As wrong as it sounds, I ony see one victim in the whole saga.
 
I feel for him.

If I was a teacher, I would end up smacking one of the little ****s round the head to make them behave.

The only party who seem to support this are the BNP.

If I was a teacher, I would be sacked within hours. If we turned the clock back 50 years I know I would have loved to teach.
 
Deluxe1 said:
Whats worse a kid getting the cane or ruler when he plays up in class or a 3 whacks over the head with a dumbell...
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The kid kept on pushing it as he knew the teacher was powerless.

The children have no reason to behave, they can run riot and get away with it.

It all comes down to, if the child had behaved, he would not have had his head whacked with a dumbell.

Even person on this Earth has a snapping point.
 
mglover070588 said:
The kid kept on pushing it as he knew the teacher was powerless.

The children have no reason to behave, they can run riot and get away with it.

It all comes down to, if the child had behaved, he would not have had his head whacked with a dumbell.

Even person on this Earth has a snapping point.
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What i was trying to say was that if they still had the cane or the ruler (which never did me or anyone i know any harm) then thats all the kid would have got but instead they banished it and he got a dumbell to the head instead.
 
we had kids who physically assaulted teachers and got little more than few weeks of suspension. id love to see them beaten with dumbbells !
 
I did my fair share of misbehaving in secondary school.

Partly due to being somewhat ahead of peers and not being allowed to do any additional work, and partly due to the fact i have the attention span of a fly.

Messing around gave me something else to than sit there staring at the lights while everyone else finished what they were doing.
 
I know if I had the opportunity to meet some of my secondary school teachers again, I'd probably apologise for all the disrespect they got from myself and everyone else. Good hearted, well educated people who get no respect because of peer pressure.

Battering the kid was obviously insanely stupid but most of us have been there and I know that if I got the amount of abuse I've seen dished out by pupils I would've cracked up long before he did!

I haven't read all 5 pages but I would imagine stress related absences are fairly common amongst teachers?
 
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