Illegal file sharing on the Internet, what should we do?

For me it depends largely on how useful something will be. If there's a movie I want that i've seen in the cinema and know that I love it and would want to watch it many times over, no question I will go and buy it. Done it for things like Swordfish, X-men etc etc. In some cases actually bought it twice, once on vcd when that was dominant and later on DVD because of the better quality. On the other hand, if it's something that I just wanna take a look at and is likely will never see it after that first time, I don't like the idea of spending 10-20 on it. Which is why I don't mind buying a lot of these chinese dubbed kung fu movies just to try out cause they aren't more than a few pounds and that is worth it for me to try something out. Much easier in cases like that to buy than to go to the hassle of downloading.

Though most often the easiest option for me is to buy the movies from shops in India, (no, not pirated copies.) since they charge significantly less for them. 300 for example, cost me about 7 quid when it was about 15 here. Just so much easier. Though I realize that this is an option to really open to everyone.
 
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My girlfriend always pulls a face if I ask her if she wants to watch a movie off my PC, yet always suggests we pick a movie up from the dvd shop...?

Is there a lesson somewhere in there? :o
 
Basically more companies need to adopt methods like steam did recently with Left for dead. Slice the cost to a third. I bought it, so did millions of others, cheaper games will generally mean more sales. Much wiser and would certainly mean me parting with my money for more games.
 
orderoftheflame said:
Whether the people can admit it or not. The cost of things is not the reason the pirates do what they do, greed is.

If an entire season cost a few quid, with an on demand high quality download service, people would still pirate it.
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I entirely agree with you. People want all you can eat. So why not offer all you can eat for a set price a month? People pay £50 a month for Sky TV, why not pay £50 for a all you can eat download service that offered 720/1080p MKV video files (TV and new cinema release films) and music in FLAC?
 
Trifid said:
I entirely agree with you. People want all you can eat. So why not offer all you can eat for a set price a month? People pay £50 a month for Sky TV, why not pay £50 for a all you can eat download service that offered 720/1080p MKV video files (TV and new cinema release films) and music in FLAC?
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People people can already get that for free (or cheper than £50)
If it was offered by a company then someone would find a way of getting it for free or cheaper
 
Trifid said:
People pay £50 a month for Sky TV
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how is it only 50 quid for sky tv, im hearing people all over place getting it for around this price and were payinh 66 quid + 10 for broadband = so 76 quid a month!!!! and were not even getting HD channels with that!

we've rang them up and always get some stuck up snotty nosed cow talking to us feeding us BS
 
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Rybo89 said:
how is it only 50 quid for sky tv, im hearing people all over place getting it for around this price and were payinh 66 quid + 10 for broadband = so 76 quid a month!!!! and were not even getting HD channels with that!

we've rang them up and always get some stuck up snotty nosed cow talking to us feeding us BS
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I think someone at work said it was £55 a month for HD and multi room. Plus £5 for BB? Not looked at the prices because they are not offering a service I want.

mattyj1085 said:
People people can already get that for free (or cheper than £50)
If it was offered by a company then someone would find a way of getting it for free or cheaper
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Are they getting it for free because it is free or because there is no legitimate company offering it legally for a set price a month? If it replaces Sky/Virgin cable than many people will convert to use that service. A large number of people have Sky and also pirate. They will be easy to convert to a legal all you can eat download service.

But then of course Sky and Virgin will complain because their business model no longer works for the consumer.
 
Trifid said:
And it goes back round to their business model needs to change to compete with piracy. If they released the series on the internet paid for by advertising or monthly subscription charge than we will have an alternative. At the moment we don't really (waiting a year and to be charged £60 is not really a alternative.)
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You guys ever heard of Graboid?

I don't know how legal their service is but I don't see how they can maintain operations if it isn't.

Basically you can sign up and use their application to download tv series and films, the speeds are really good (easily caps out my 10mbit line). The service has different plans with different costs and bandwidth limitations so they must feed a portion of their profits back to the producers or something.

Assuming it's OK to post here I could post instructions for setting up a trial if anyone's interested.
 
eXor said:
Doesn't look legal. PirateBay can maintain operations.....
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Well if the media providers pulled together and offered a service similar to Graboid i'm sure tons of people would use them. Thing is they seem so against using digital means to distribute their media that they wonder why so many people use torrents etc.

Distributing digitally means that you can make up profits in sheer volume of sales rather than price, digital downloads mean that you don't have to package or ship content and you'll never run out of media to sell, they could really take these advantages and use them better.
 
NiCkNaMe said:
My girlfriend always pulls a face if I ask her if she wants to watch a movie off my PC, yet always suggests we pick a movie up from the dvd shop...?

Is there a lesson somewhere in there? :o
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Linux box + tv with pc input + mythtv + wifiremote = this :D.
She would not be any wiser :D
 
bledd. said:
there goes my ability to download nvidia graphics card drivers :(
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Yup, and my ability to upload high quality copies of the music i make, you know some people actually appreciate people playing their music?

And the studio time argument is crap, it has never been cheaper and easier to make a good master copy of your own album at home, 4 members in a band, that's not a lot of money, 2000£ each or something.
 
I havent read through the whole thread so I dont know weather its been mentioned or not but heres my opinion.

People will still pirate films and music no matter how cheap or easy it is because the simple fact is why pay for something when you can get it for free.

I dont have an answer to how companies can stop the pirates because no matter what anybodie does to try and stop it the pirates still find a way.
 
If I buy a DVD from a shop and watch it, I've watched it. I then sell it to my friend for exactly the same price as I bought it, he has watched it. He then sells it on, and so forth. All perfectly legal.

The company gets one sale. Twenty people have seen it. What is the difference there?
 
because the market demands products that the companies are not willing to offer in a way that the market chooses to consume it.

for example, why are so many copies done of movies before they come out on DVD? because people want to watch it on ******* DVD in their own house and not in the cinema paying £8 a person...

Where capitolism fails - when collusion between olygolopic industry cohorts are determined to protect their own interests instead of allowing the market to further itself, or by allowing innovation to happen

for example, why doesnt 1 film company have the balls to put the film on DVD/Divx download the weekend after a movie premiers?

not one is willing to flinch and move away from the cinema release followed by 8 month lull before it hits DVD...why is this? they must have an agreement or something to stop them? greed usually..

re music piracy, im sure the casette/radio yielded many pirates - yet the casette/radio was never banned...
 
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