Illegal number plates - New DVLA rules

Burnsy2023

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Burnsy2023

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As from 9 June 2009 DVLA have implemented a new system for reporting Illegally displayed VRNS (vehicle registration numbers).
Prior to that the Cop who pulled you over had a number of methods of disposal, ranging from doing nothing, through to Fixed Penalties and Defect Rectification Notices.

There was also a very long and complicated system where if the cop took a picture of the VRN then posted it with a long form to the DVLA they would perhaps if the wind was blowing the right way on a wet Tuesday maybe write to the keeper and tell them off.

NO LONGER

The DVLA have realised that most cops Traffic included won’t issue fixed penalties or spend hours filling in forms and have brought in the following system.
On receipt of a now A4 size form (miniscule in the Police world of forms) and a copy of the photograph of the offending VRN the DVLA will now write to the registered keeper and give them 28 days to correct the defect AND then provide them (DVLA) photographic evidence of this. On the 29th day they will automatically DEREGISTER your vehicle, if you do provide such proof you will get a letter back saying thank you if it happens again we will deregister the vehicle without warning.

Now having your vehicle deregistered is a real pain it means a day off to the local DVLA office to re register it, getting your tax, mot and insurance changed to your new allocated number cos you won’t get your old one back (remember you don’t own your plate, just the rights to display it legally) if it cost thousands it’s a ###### they will just auction it off again.

You can’t drive the car in this time mind you.

Now the bit which will make it a success for them is the vehicle does not have to be stopped for this photo to be taken it can be a CCTV or ANPR camera still image.

Attached is the link to the DVLA regulations for VRNs

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/v796.pdf

Be aware in this legislation if the owner is claiming an exemption i.e. pre 01092001 the onus is on the keeper to prove that the plate was manufactured before that not the other way round, this is because plates are considered consumable items and likely to frequent change.
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Copied off another forum, not sure if it's true or a hoax, but I'd love it to be true, Illegal number plates are one of my pet hates.
 
[TW]Fox;14313130 said:
They cannot and will not simply 'deregister' a vehicle.
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Why can't they do it? The plates are owned by the DVLA and licensed to a driver. If they don't adhere to the licence they can be revoked.
 
I've read that a few times and still can't work out what they are saying? It is either poorly written or I'm being a bit slow tonight.
 
My elderly neighbor had normal plates from the dealer he bought the car from about 5 years ago, he just failed his MOT because the plates were "against new legislation" and they made him pay for a new set with a blue flag on the left. He asked for the old plates so he could check with the police and they had "thrown them away".

Could somebody confirm that he was swindled? What legislation could have come in to invalidate his plates as these plates were legit plates on an 54 reg octavia....
 
Burnsy2023 said:
Why can't they do it?
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Because the system doesn't work like that, unless a vehicle has a certificate of destruction it requires a valid registration number. You can't de-register a car. You can confiscate a registration mark and have the vehicle re-registered onto an alternative mark, probably a Q plate, but you can't de-register it.

Your source is BS. Sorry :(
 
[TW]Fox;14313160 said:
Because the system doesn't work like that, unless a vehicle has a certificate of destruction it requires a valid registration number. You can't de-register a car. You can confiscate a registration mark and have the vehicle re-registered onto an alternative mark, probably a Q plate, but you can't de-register it.

Your source is BS. Sorry :(
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Apparently is does work like the original post said, and the DVLA have done it before: http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/information_on_the_numbers_withd
 
[TW]Fox;14313222 said:
Apparently it does not.



The mark was withdrawn and the car REREGISTERED. This is NOT de-registering a car. You cannot de-register a car, all cars in the UK must be registered unless they have been destroyed.
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You're being a bit pedantic there. What they say about deregistering the car and requiring the user to re-register it seems totally plausible.

You seem very confident about this, what's your source?
 
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