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I'm a bit lost on an upgrade path

I'd have thought you would absolutely be aware of what games use crossfire and which games don't. Usually you get an on screen display in the top right hand corner that says AMD Crossfire Technology when the game is running in crossfire. You also usually need to manually enable crossfire in your driver settings for it to work. If you haven't had to mess around with driver settings or seen the AMD Crossfire in the top corner of your screen when playing games, then the chances are you haven't had it enabled, possibly ever?!
You've very possibly made me sad! I'm going to have to check on this tonight when I get home and see if I've been half utilising my card forever.

Except in VR the 1070 or 1080 will be a huge upgrade over what he has. It would be worth it if VR is his main point of upgrading now.

The whole reason I was looking at upgrades was down to the fact that after trying two different mini-dp to HDMI adaptors and both not working, I was thinking it might be worth looking at another card altogether (though an upgrade for ugprades sake is always welcome!).
At the moment it's more of a 'would be nice to have' rather than a 'I must have this!'. It's nice to know people's opinions on where to go...or not...at this point in time.
I know a lot of games don't support VR, other are shoehorned in with 3rd party software. I think, when it comes down to it the main question is probably this -

For the limited amount of games around at the moment that do actually support VR (directly or indirectly), and given that some of the games I play doesn't, is it worth up(or side)grading at all given what card I'm already running which pretty much does what I need it to when outside of VR.
 
Stick with what you've got and wait for a worthwhile upgrade.

terrible advice.

his card only half works in a lot of games. it uses a crap load of power and runs extremely hot making the rest of his system hot. it's also got zero warranty.

it's a beast of a mining card and therefore he can still get 2-3 times what t's actually worth because of this.

my mate sold his out of warranty 295x2 a couple of months back for like £600 on gumtree.

he then went out and bought a 1080ti with a 5 year warranty. his system now runs any game @ 4k with 60fps @ ultra. it's also a hell of a lot cooler and quieter too. the upgrade cost him next to nothing. when you take he now has a beast of a card with a 5 year warranty you would have to be a moron to stick with the 295x2 IMO.
 
Going rate by ended auctions is about £470, so about £420 ish after fees, not sure if Gumtree is where the numpties shop but it seems someone massively over paid for that.

The card does what he wants aside from VR. Sure he could spend some money for the sake of it but I don't see the point if it's all working properly.

For the limited amount of games around at the moment that do actually support VR (directly or indirectly), and given that some of the games I play doesn't, is it worth up(or side)grading at all given what card I'm already running which pretty much does what I need it to when outside of VR.
 
Going rate by ended auctions is about £470, so about £420 ish after fees, not sure if Gumtree is where the numpties shop but it seems someone massively over paid for that.

The card does what he wants aside from VR. Sure he could spend some money for the sake of it but I don't see the point if it's all working properly.

i did say around 2 months ago. check the going rate 2-3 months ago ;-)

even at £470 - it means he can swap his card for a brand new 1080 with warranty. IMO you would have to be a carrot to think this wasn't a good deal. or spend £200 and get a 1080ti with warranty.

he should have sold it 2-3 months ago though. would have gotten stupid money for it.
 
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I'll try not to take offence to that ;)

your telling me it's the smart move to say no to £500? for a card that only half works half the time, has zero warranty, consumes a crapload of power and puts out more heat than rihanna twerking?

you can then take that £500 and buy a much better card with a substantial warranty, that is much more efficient and cooler.

sticking with it is the worst play to make.
 
No. I was telling you that I'll try no to take offence to you suggesting I'm a carrot :D


that is only the case if after you have heard all the advice above and still decided to keep the card. what other reason would there be to keep the card?

so which one is it? are you keeping or selling?
 
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Unfortunately there isn't really anything to upgrade too from a 295x2 on amds side when you take into account when crossfire works. Heck a gtx 1080 won't be a whole lot faster when crossfire works.... the only card that will handily annihilate it is the 1080 Ti
 
that is only the case if after you have heard all the advice above and still decided to keep the card. what other reason would there be to keep the card?

so which one is it? are you keeping or selling?

The majority of advice is telling him to keep the card.

And if he decides to do that fair play to him. He has a card that he is very happy with, no point in changing just for the sake of it.

Keep your "carrot" comments to yourself.
 
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The majority of advice is telling him to keep the card.

And if he decides to do that fair play to him. He has a card that he is very happy with, no point in changing just for the sake of it.

Keep your "carrot" comments to yourself.

the majority of advice isn't taking into account the new info i provided above. based on that do you think he should keep the card?
 
Unfortunately there isn't really anything to upgrade too from a 295x2 on amds side when you take into account when crossfire works. Heck a gtx 1080 won't be a whole lot faster when crossfire works.... the only card that will handily annihilate it is the 1080 Ti

there is more than just speed on offer here. we are talking a new card with multiple years warranty. a cooler running card which uses less electricity. and it will work fully 100% of the time rather than 50% of the time.

he can upgrade to a 1080 for free. in fact take electricity saving into account. they are paying him to take a 1080 with 3-5 years warranty.
 
the majority of advice isn't taking into account the new info i provided above. based on that do you think he should keep the card?

What I would do doesn't matter. He asked advice, I gave my advice. It's up to him to make his own choices.

Whereas you seem adamant that he does what you tell him to do. Even calling other people's advice terrible.

You see He is very happy with the card he has. I just want to repeat that one more time, because I don't think it's getting through to you. He is very happy with the card he has.

Sure he might be able to sell it for a good amount, but that's not guaranteed. He might not even be the kind of guy who sells his cards second hand, he might pass them along to family or friends.
 
depands on the resolution you play at, 1080p you are mostly Fine in 95% of the games with 60+ fps, on max settings.
at 1440p you will go from Fine to OK, with about 80% of the games, since you will be relying more on crossfire support to hit the 60+fps on a growing number of games, and you add to that the 4GB memory, that will force will force you on some games to compromise on settings or have an fps hit.
at 4k you go from Fine to Bad , with like 20% of the games able to reach the 60fps mostly indies or not very demanding games, crossfire and memory becomes a bigger problem too.
so my advice to you would be a Custom cooled Vega RX56, you get 8GB of memory, and you get a nice 30-40% performance uplift(from off crossfire) with being not very far off the crossfire perf, upside not relying on crossfire support anymore, imo it's the best bang for the buck atm
 
You've very possibly made me sad! I'm going to have to check on this tonight when I get home and see if I've been half utilising my card forever.
Well look on the bright side, if you haven't had crossfire enabled that you've just gained a significant upgrade! Well, in theory anyway - the problem is so few games work with crossfire so the smart choice would be to go with a single card that will guarantee the crossfire level of performance. Vega 64, 1080 or 1080Ti would all do that...
 
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