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Craig321

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Hi,

I've just joined the climate prediction OcUK team and am in the Seti team - I haven't ran BOINC for quite a while because I didn't like my CPU running at 100% while I was away as it used to get to 65 (67 is max recommended for my CPU).

But now I have a new heatsink (Ninja Scythe Plus mmmmm :D) which is nice and cool (32 idle and 45-50 load - excellent for a prescott).

I'm not sure if I'll be running climate prediction, I'll probably run folding and seti as you guys seem more in to folding.

One's definitely going to be seti though as I already have an account with quite a few points on it.

:D

Craig.
 
Hmmm, just got folding but don't like the fact it's not in BOINC. Is there a BOINC version of it?

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Just found the folding version of it, but get access denied on the homepage :(
 
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Craig321 said:
Hmmm, just got folding but don't like the fact it's not in BOINC. Is there a BOINC version of it?

--Edit--

Just found the folding version of it, but get access denied on the homepage :(
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Not yet but they're working on it - if I could be bothered, I'd find you a link.

If you find one - post it please :D :o

Stan :)

Note to self - read post properly before replying :o
 
Craig321 said:
I did fine a link to the BOINC version but the website gives me access denied :(
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there was a closed beta test of it - however I'm not sure if that's even still going on, the Boinc platform seems to be losing momentum all the time :o

Stanford would be much better off spending time on the next client and making advances in the GPU client which they've been working on for some time now
 
They were developing a BOINC version of it but it was very kludgy. It went as far as a public beta but it seems progress has either stopped or at least slowed to the point that it looks like they've stopped.

To run FAH all you have to do is install the console as described in the sticky. If you're interested we'd be glad to hold your hand through the installation procedure. :)
 
Yeah, F@H looked at it so as to not lose out to those who went the BOINC route, but it was a horrible kludge really, and frankly they seem to be doing pretty well without.
 
Berserker said:
Yeah, F@H looked at it so as to not lose out to those who went the BOINC route, but it was a horrible kludge really, and frankly they seem to be doing pretty well without.
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Agreed.
At first, I was looking forward to Folding on BOINC but now I'm perfectly happy with things the way they are :)

My days with BOINC were, in retrospect, a lot less happy than my Stanford days :D

Stan :)
 
BOINC is an overrated piece of junk. Anyone found to be using it should be locked in a dark room with a solar powered calculator, a near empty biro, an old soggy beer mat and be made to calculate a WU by hand :D

SiriusB
 
I moved to FAH over a year ago, after BOINC/SETI had me totally exasperated with waiting sometimes days for work units with my PC doing nothing at all.
Since coming over to FAH I've never had my PC idle (except the odd time when my broadband failed for 12hrs+) - wouldn't go back to BOINC for anything!!

Kinnison.
 
I'll run F@H if there's some way I can make it so it runs when my PC is idle unless I tell it to run all the time. Couldn't find anywhere in the options to do that :(
 
Craig321 said:
I'll run F@H if there's some way I can make it so it runs when my PC is idle unless I tell it to run all the time. Couldn't find anywhere in the options to do that :(
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If you're really worried that it may not be freeing up resources as soon as you need them then you can set the client to use less than 100% of the cpu time - It's in the advanced settings in the configuration, you can set it anywhere between 5% and 100%.

Personally I've never had a problem with FAH - others who use their computers far more exhaustively than I do have also said they've noticed no effect on performance from running the client alongside all their usual software.

I would advise you to do one or more of the following depending on which resources you are most concerned about:

1. limit the memory that the client can use - this is done in the advanced settings part of the configuration and it will simply tell the assignment server the maximum amount of memory you want a WU to use - if set quite low then FAH will make an absolute minimum effect on your PC's performance if you run quite memory demanding software a lot, memory usage is the only real way that FAH will disrupt your normal everyday use of the computer.

2. set the client so it can't do large WUs (these can be over 5MB to send or receive which could affect online gaming or media streaming if you're unlucky enough for it to coincide with a WU ending every day or two) - the downside to this is that large WUs usually carry 2x bonus points to "pay" for the extra usage of your connection

3. limit the maximum CPU time (as mentioned above), this is the least effective method as the client will happily give up all 100% to higher priority processes anyway


Alternatively you can set up shortcuts on your desktop to start and stop the client when you want to - however this way you WILL waste a lot of potential crunching time from either forgetting to turn it back on or from losing progress on the WU between checkpoints


hope this helps :)
took long enough to write :o
 
I have F@H running 100% on all my rigs and I've never had any problems with it hogging resources.

I have never noticed any problems whilst gaming or anything else, the resources are freed up instantly I need them (I am lucky enough to have ample memory in all of my rigs).

Stan :)
 
OK, thanks guys. Will look more at the options and, if you say it doesn't effect performance, I'll run it in the background :)

Will it run alright along side BOINC? Or should I give them each 50% resources rather?

Craig.
 
Craig321 said:
Will it run alright along side BOINC? Or should I give them each 50% resources rather?

Craig.
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I'm not sure if the two will work together or not - FAH has two priority settings, idle and low
Idle is the lowest possible, Low is what Seti classic used to run at by default - it will depend what the particular boinc application runs at but at least you have two options with FAH

Otherwise you could set FAH higher and limit it to 50%, though if Boinc runs out of work FAH will not be able to take the remaining 50% of spare

You'll have to try it out and see how you get on - at least there's plenty of options :)
 
rich99million said:
I'm not sure if the two will work together or not - FAH has two priority settings, idle and low
Idle is the lowest possible, Low is what Seti classic used to run at by default - it will depend what the particular boinc application runs at but at least you have two options with FAH

Otherwise you could set FAH higher and limit it to 50%, though if Boinc runs out of work FAH will not be able to take the remaining 50% of spare

You'll have to try it out and see how you get on - at least there's plenty of options :)
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Maybe if I set them both to take 50% resources & low priority then it'd work fine?
 
Craig321 said:
Maybe if I set them both to take 50% resources & low priority then it'd work fine?
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if you can get folding and Boinc to run at the same priority then you can set both to 100% and they will share 50% each - then if either runs out of work the other will take the full 100% until more work is available

that would be the best solution - it just depends what priority Boinc runs at really
 
rich99million said:
if you can get folding and Boinc to run at the same priority then you can set both to 100% and they will share 50% each - then if either runs out of work the other will take the full 100% until more work is available

that would be the best solution - it just depends what priority Boinc runs at really
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Good idea.
I think BOINC runs at low so I'll make folding run at low as well :)

Hmmm, but the only other thing is that BOINC runs 2 SETI projects at a time each taking 50% each, if I ran folding as well on the same priority would the 2 seti projects and the folding project take a third each?

THanks,
Craig.
 
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