I'm finally in the club

joedeath332 · 3 Oct 2018 at 22:41

Yip tonight i finally got my first VR headset set up , i bought a 2nd hand rift to see what VR is like in racing sims and to tide me over until the Pimax 5k gets released.
well my current gpu is well well over due an upgrade as it is an AMD 7900 series card.
I was planning on getting a 2080ti for when i get the Pimax , but after trying the rift tonight it was a lot better than i expected as i had my expectations quite low as its very old and my gpu is like 50 years old

but yet the result was ok graphically wise and GREAT immersion wise so i now find myself questioning myself on do i really need to spend all that money on a 2080ti and the Pimax headset , so about 2k for both.
Where as i am wondering if i got a 1080ti to power the rift when playing Sim racing games , would i be able to wind the graphics settings in game way way up , over ultra ultra ultra settings

( if you know what i mean ) would this make the picture better by a fair bit ?
I am also toying with the idea of changing from the thought of getting the pimax and MAYBE just a MAYBE importing the Samsung Odyssey as its the same screen res as the Vive Pro as far as i remember.

aoaaron · 3 Oct 2018 at 22:50

I personally got a RTX 2080. Was in a similar boat to you (GTX 670).

My other issue with going down the 2080ti route is I feel maybe 90% of the time it will be underutilised and I could have got by with a 1080ti or 2080. Even at 4k, those 2 cards are pretty much hitting 60fps and destroying most VR titles.

I've seen the RTX 2080 kills it on benchmarks for VR Mark [beating the 1080ti]. I couldn't quite justify stretching to the 2080ti simply because a lot of VR games I want to play (e..g Skyrim VR, Fallout VR) are actually CPU bound so the £350 different will probably be better smartly devoted to the CPU side of things.

In regards to Pimax, its REALLY exciting. However I'm personally going to wait for them to offer a decent package of light houses + hopefully knuckle controllers will be out by then. That'll probably be by next year; by that time Oculus will probably be announcing some form of Rift 2 headset.
If Pimax had stuck to schedule of releasing earlier this year, they would have destroyed the competition.
The Rift also has at present the ridiculous bundled package of 8 games or something ridiculous like that.

Generally from the benchmarks I've seen of the Pimax, its also been quite difficult to power.. just not sure if its a bit ahead of its time in regards to hardware to power it, user expereince, controllers etc.

If I were to go anywhere away from a Rift, it'd probably be towards the Vive. I still think the analogue control sticks on the Rift are just wayyyy better... but u can't underestimate the wireless adaptor and being able to eliminate the cable.

Distracted · 3 Oct 2018 at 22:58

joedeath332 said:
Yip tonight i finally got my first VR headset set up , i bought a 2nd hand rift to see what VR is like in racing sims and to tide me over until the Pimax 5k gets released.
well my current gpu is well well over due an upgrade as it is an AMD 7900 series card.
I was planning on getting a 2080ti for when i get the Pimax , but after trying the rift tonight it was a lot better than i expected as i had my expectations quite low as its very old and my gpu is like 50 years old
but yet the result was ok graphically wise and GREAT immersion wise so i now find myself questioning myself on do i really need to spend all that money on a 2080ti and the Pimax headset , so about 2k for both.
Where as i am wondering if i got a 1080ti to power the rift when playing Sim racing games , would i be able to wind the graphics settings in game way way up , over ultra ultra ultra settings ( if you know what i mean ) would this make the picture better by a fair bit ?
I am also toying with the idea of changing from the thought of getting the pimax and MAYBE just a MAYBE importing the Samsung Odyssey as its the same screen res as the Vive Pro as far as i remember.

Apparently the screen is great for the samsung and so is the price vs vive pro but the tracking of both headset and controllers is inferior.

I've never used either, but i like the price of the Samsung.

melmac · 4 Oct 2018 at 00:08

joedeath332 said:
Yip tonight i finally got my first VR headset set up , i bought a 2nd hand rift to see what VR is like in racing sims and to tide me over until the Pimax 5k gets released.
well my current gpu is well well over due an upgrade as it is an AMD 7900 series card.
I was planning on getting a 2080ti for when i get the Pimax , but after trying the rift tonight it was a lot better than i expected as i had my expectations quite low as its very old and my gpu is like 50 years old
but yet the result was ok graphically wise and GREAT immersion wise so i now find myself questioning myself on do i really need to spend all that money on a 2080ti and the Pimax headset , so about 2k for both.
Where as i am wondering if i got a 1080ti to power the rift when playing Sim racing games , would i be able to wind the graphics settings in game way way up , over ultra ultra ultra settings ( if you know what i mean ) would this make the picture better by a fair bit ?
I am also toying with the idea of changing from the thought of getting the pimax and MAYBE just a MAYBE importing the Samsung Odyssey as its the same screen res as the Vive Pro as far as i remember.

You are playing on a 7900 card and you think it's amazing? WOW!! You will love it on anything better, even a 1060 would be miles better. Any chance at all you could get a loan of a GPU from somebody? Maybe a 1070? Or purchase something second hand in the Members market.

The graphics must be on the lowest of low for you to get any kind of meaningful framerate and even then it's probably barely reaching 45fps.

There isn't a huge difference when moving from a 1070 to a 1080Ti when using the Rift, but, coming from your card to a 1070 will be a massive improvement.

SupraWez · 4 Oct 2018 at 00:13

Stick with Rift, upgrade your graphics card and ramp up the SS and gfx settings

joedeath332 · 4 Oct 2018 at 00:24

Well a few hrs of VR certainly did go to my head, I just happened to purchase a Samsung odyssey as well , I will get myself a 1080ti and then resell what ever one of the headsets I least prefer.
Bearing in mind I'm only interested in simulator racing, as apposed to the likes of VR tennis

melmac · 4 Oct 2018 at 00:42

joedeath332 said:
Well a few hrs of VR certainly did go to my head, I just happened to purchase a Samsung odyssey as well , I will get myself a 1080ti and then resell what ever one of the headsets I least prefer.
Bearing in mind I'm only interested in simulator racing, as apposed to the likes of VR tennis

Oh people always say things like that, oh I only bought it for such and such. I bought the headset for Elite Dangerous but have barely played it at all, I found the immersion factor so amazing that I had to go try other types of games.

DONOHUE07 · 4 Oct 2018 at 04:56

joedeath332 said:
Well a few hrs of VR certainly did go to my head, I just happened to purchase a Samsung odyssey as well , I will get myself a 1080ti and then resell what ever one of the headsets I least prefer.
Bearing in mind I'm only interested in simulator racing, as apposed to the likes of VR tennis

Did you get the Touch controllers too with your 2nd hand Rift?
I understand the appeal of buying a VR headset just for sim games I really do, but VR takes off and goes to another level when you play room scale games with your Touch controllers.

Don’t bother with 1080ti, as melmac said, beyond the 1070 difference isn’t really noticeable on VR right now, given the prices I would say the 1070ti/1080/Vega64 are the best options

Born2BSlow · 4 Oct 2018 at 07:50

I bought my Rift for sim racing and 18 months on its still all I play, totally hooked. Admittedly that is because my mancave is only 2m square and my racing seat sits in the middle. To do room scale properly I have to move everything into the living room, which is not popular with SWMBO lol. When I get the Pimax the rift will go upstairs into the games room and all that will change.

I bought a 1080ti from a 980ti after backing the Pimax which will need all the pixels I can throw at it and then some. Have to say once you are past 1.5ss in the Rift the improvement is minimal, and my 980ti could cope at that level. I’m in the process of buying a 1070ti in the mm so the rift can move.

aoaaron · 4 Oct 2018 at 07:57

Born2BSlow said:
I bought my Rift for sim racing and 18 months on its still all I play, totally hooked. Admittedly that is because my mancave is only 2m square and my racing seat sits in the middle. To do room scale properly I have to move everything into the living room, which is not popular with SWMBO lol. When I get the Pimax the rift will go upstairs into the games room and all that will change.

I bought a 1080ti from a 980ti after backing the Pimax which will need all the pixels I can throw at it and then some. Have to say once you are past 1.5ss in the Rift the improvement is minimal, and my 980ti could cope at that level. I’m in the process of buying a 1070ti in the mm so the rift can move.

Have you pre-ordered the Pimax?
I just wish they had a package available which was more complete than a stand-alone headset.I've just saw a video on the 5+ through the lens on youtube and the blacks looked... blue.

I'm also still interested in the Pimax, I just couldn't wait any longer to dip into PC VR-gaming and Occulus has way too many exclusives to ignore.

AKAK · 4 Oct 2018 at 07:57

I would be tempted by a 2nd hand Rift - I assume you don't get a warranty or any bundled games?

Born2BSlow · 4 Oct 2018 at 08:15

@aoaaron I backed the kickstarter, so I'm just waiting for it now (backer no. 2xxx odd), I have to choose between the 5k+ and the 8K before they ship it, which is proving difficult based on the fact they are so close in performance.

joedeath332 · 4 Oct 2018 at 11:33

DONOHUE07 said:
Did you get the Touch controllers too with your 2nd hand Rift?
I understand the appeal of buying a VR headset just for sim games I really do, but VR takes off and goes to another level when you play room scale games with your Touch controllers.

Don’t bother with 1080ti, as melmac said, beyond the 1070 difference isn’t really noticeable on VR right now, given the prices I would say the 1070ti/1080/Vega64 are the best options

Ok thanks ill bear that in mind. but i might still lean towards the 1080ti as i might get a better monitor than my current 1080p one
And yip i did get the touch controllers with it , they are awesome

Born2BSlow said:
I bought my Rift for sim racing and 18 months on its still all I play, totally hooked. Admittedly that is because my mancave is only 2m square and my racing seat sits in the middle. To do room scale properly I have to move everything into the living room, which is not popular with SWMBO lol. When I get the Pimax the rift will go upstairs into the games room and all that will change.

I bought a 1080ti from a 980ti after backing the Pimax which will need all the pixels I can throw at it and then some. Have to say once you are past 1.5ss in the Rift the improvement is minimal, and my 980ti could cope at that level. I’m in the process of buying a 1070ti in the mm so the rift can move.

Thanks

aoaaron said:
Have you pre-ordered the Pimax?
I just wish they had a package available which was more complete than a stand-alone headset.I've just saw a video on the 5+ through the lens on youtube and the blacks looked... blue.

I'm also still interested in the Pimax, I just couldn't wait any longer to dip into PC VR-gaming and Occulus has way too many exclusives to ignore.

Nope i only just got back into pc gaming last month and that was the first time i read about the Pimax

Born2BSlow said:
@aoaaron I backed the kickstarter, so I'm just waiting for it now (backer no. 2xxx odd), I have to choose between the 5k+ and the 8K before they ship it, which is proving difficult based on the fact they are so close in performance.

5k+ all the way

Shiari · 4 Oct 2018 at 18:49

AKAK said:
I would be tempted by a 2nd hand Rift - I assume you don't get a warranty or any bundled games?

No, you don't. The games are linked to your Oculus account when first pairing the touch controllers, so you'd have to get access to their account. Warranty is not transferable either afaik.

MissChief · 4 Oct 2018 at 18:58

Shiari said:
No, you don't. The games are linked to your Oculus account when first pairing the touch controllers, so you'd have to get access to their account. Warranty is not transferable either afaik.

When I sold my Rift (mainly due to lack of space in front of the computer than any dislike of it) I transferred the Oculus account to the buyer without issue.

aoaaron · 7 Oct 2018 at 19:40

joedeath332 said:
Yip tonight i finally got my first VR headset set up , i bought a 2nd hand rift to see what VR is like in racing sims and to tide me over until the Pimax 5k gets released.
well my current gpu is well well over due an upgrade as it is an AMD 7900 series card.
I was planning on getting a 2080ti for when i get the Pimax , but after trying the rift tonight it was a lot better than i expected as i had my expectations quite low as its very old and my gpu is like 50 years old
but yet the result was ok graphically wise and GREAT immersion wise so i now find myself questioning myself on do i really need to spend all that money on a 2080ti and the Pimax headset , so about 2k for both.
Where as i am wondering if i got a 1080ti to power the rift when playing Sim racing games , would i be able to wind the graphics settings in game way way up , over ultra ultra ultra settings ( if you know what i mean ) would this make the picture better by a fair bit ?
I am also toying with the idea of changing from the thought of getting the pimax and MAYBE just a MAYBE importing the Samsung Odyssey as its the same screen res as the Vive Pro as far as i remember.

BTW where are you buying your games from whilst playing with a rift? SteamVR or Oculus Home?

joedeath332 · 7 Oct 2018 at 22:13

aoaaron said:
BTW where are you buying your games from whilst playing with a rift? SteamVR or Oculus Home?

What games

atm I'm only playing racing sim games which I already own ,, but when it comes to buying games I'll always try a CD key site 1st for pricing.