Im looking for staff - any ideas?

[Baldbloke]

Try telling us what the job is and what the salary is? You might get some applications via this very thread.

Either that or you might get some more accurate responses to your question.

Just a thought but then, I ain't much good at thinking

 

[Combat squirrel]

People are going to be unemployed for a long time with attitude like that…

For low wage jobs, they are more suitable for people with little experience who need more to move onto better things, they normally move on after a couple of years to something much better.

small businesses ( under 20 employees) most of the time can’t compete with big wages…. There is a big skill shortage in loads of sectors currently which aren’t doing small businesses any favours.

I have come to the conclusion that people are simply too lazy to work

The most eye roll inducing nauseating response I've ever read, true boomer style.

If a full day's labour can't purchase three square meals, 24 hour's worth of rent and utilities, a fraction of a month's clothing budget, and a reasonable portion to be saved for when you can no longer comfortably work, whats the point of doing it !!!!!

It's not people are too lazy to work, it's just that you are so dramatically out of touch you are assuming that a minimum wage job these days can cover living expenses when for millions, it's no where near.

Lets tax billionaires or force up the living wage to the minimum required amount that we stop handing out vast sums of money to the economic black hole that is share holders.

 

[Combat squirrel]

Try telling us what the job is and what the salary is? You might get some applications via this very thread.

Either that or you might get some more accurate responses to your question.

Just a thought but then, I ain't much good at thinking

This, if the employer can't get basic stuff right like SIMPLE COMMUNICATIONS - then why would anyone want to work for them ?! They'd not hire someone who can't answer a basic ****** question, that goes both ways, sorry capitalists the workers are holding you to the same standards now! Impress us, make me want to work for you, it's essential for your business, its not essential for me.

 

[Lopéz]

I run a small business, we do alright but Im at the price sensitive end of the market due to our size so I cant really afford to pay a recruitment agent 20% of the annual salary upfront with a small clawback period. I've tried advertising on Linkedin (free job ad) and CV Library (£75) and not got a single person who is suitable with anything close to relevant experience. I think the salary is decent for up here in Newcastle so I dont think thats the problem but does anyone have any advice or options that's worked for them to recruit staff? I was thinking of giving Indeed jobs a go but other than that I'm not sure what else I can do?

You could reply to this thread with some more details, that might be a start?

 

[malachi]

When you are running a business, need to remember when it comes to salary. You don't dictate the market, the market dictates you.

No matter what the job is, if you are getting 0 applications then the problem is the business you are running. Not the future employees you are looking for.

Its 2023, the days of people taking just any job and at any pay are long gone. Even with this so called recession coming or happening. People are not settling for crappy wages.

 

[Mark M]

Thanks for all the comments, constructive and otherwise...

I posted the job on Indeed and got nearly 100 applications, some with no experience and others with the exact experience we are looking for, so my conclusion is that LinkedIn and CV library aren't the place to be advertising jobs on!

I have since employed someone who started last week and has been awesome! For those asking, salary is £30k and 35 days holiday.

 

[Combat squirrel]

Thanks for all the comments, constructive and otherwise...

I posted the job on Indeed and got nearly 100 applications, some with no experience and others with the exact experience we are looking for, so my conclusion is that LinkedIn and CV library aren't the place to be advertising jobs on!

I have since employed someone who started last week and has been awesome! For those asking, salary is £30k and 35 days holiday.

30k is about a bare absolute minimum wage these days to afford to live - it should just net you paying rent/mortgage, running a car, food & bills and perhaps £100-200 spare cash a month to enjoy a meal out once.

Glad you got the role filled, but no information on what that job is, in reality you should get that working full time in a supermarket.

 

[FishThrower]

30k is about a bare absolute minimum wage these days to afford to live - it should just net you paying rent/mortgage, running a car, food & bills and perhaps £100-200 spare cash a month to enjoy a meal out once.

Glad you got the role filled, but no information on what that job is, in reality you should get that working full time in a supermarket.

30K a year for working full time in a supermarket???

 

[jon86]

30K a year for working full time in a supermarket???

£30000 / 2080 = £14.42 per hour. @cheesefest, can you make £14.42 per hour by working in a supermarket, perhaps if you do some/lots of overtime?

 

[Combat squirrel]

30K a year for working full time in a supermarket???

Lord above, you continuously miss the point.

THE POINT IS: A person should be able to work any job, and be able to live off it - so YEAH if someone is working full time in a supermarket - given how much the cost is living these days, they will need to be making AT LEAST 30k a year to simply survive in a humane way - much less and it makes no sense to work for anyone as whats the point in working if you can't pay to live, either way you're homeless.

In fact, 30k a year should and needs to be minimum wage for full time work, nothing less makes any sense.

Plenty of money to do this, except its all given away as profits to shareholders right now - you could easily pay everyone 30k a year and those billionaires would STILL be billionaires

 

[FishThrower]

Lord above, you continuously miss the point.

THE POINT IS: A person should be able to work any job, and be able to live off it - so YEAH if someone is working full time in a supermarket - given how much the cost is living these days, they will need to be making AT LEAST 30k a year to simply survive in a humane way - much less and it makes no sense to work for anyone as whats the point in working if you can't pay to live, either way you're homeless.

In fact, 30k a year should and needs to be minimum wage for full time work, nothing less makes any sense.

Plenty of money to do this, except its all given away as profits to shareholders right now - you could easily pay everyone 30k a year and those billionaires would STILL be billionaires

you come across as a very angry person, you stated that the 30k figure was "reality", which isn't the case, and now your saying its some sort of fantasy of yours.

if the minimum wage increases to 30K , then inflation would go through the roof, then that 30K would no longer be enough to live off of, then the cycle continues.

going back 20-30 years, nobody was ever able to afford a house on minimum wage.

 

[Combat squirrel]

you come across as a very angry person, you stated that the 30k figure was "reality", which isn't the case, and now your saying its some sort of fantasy of yours.

if the minimum wage increases to 30K , then inflation would go through the roof, then that 30K would no longer be enough to live off of, then the cycle continues.

going back 20-30 years, nobody was ever able to afford a house on minimum wage.

Not angry in the slightest, just baffled how the well offs like you can't scrape together some form of empathy.

Inflation is caused by billionaires & anti socialist governing - it's a proven fact that a slightly richer general population wouldn't cause it, so why believe such nonsense.

If you take half the populations wealth and give it to 200 people (thus permanently removing the money from circulation as its hoarded away), that's inflation, not people having enough money to live.

Even basic common sense and logic can tell you that.

 

[413x]

My partner only just gets 30k and shes a marketing senior /at a charity, which drops that salary)

30k is not a base salary (unfortunately)

 

[Combat squirrel]

My partner only just gets 30k and shes a marketing senior /at a charity, which drops that salary)

30k is not a base salary (unfortunately)

Ok, which has nothing to do with my point that it needs to be a basic living salary in general for full time work - you're partner is having the **** taken out of them for their level of responsibility as far as I can see for a marketing senior - how much does the CEO of the charity take home? or your partners boss? probably an absurd amount more, not very many charities I know who's CEO isn't driving a fancy car.......

My point is based on how much you need to live per month in the UK (as a minimum reletivily dignified living) for 1 person living in a rented or owned accommodation.

30k just barely gets you by without too many problems, assuming you keep your job forever. On a £30,000 salary, your take home pay will be £23,848 after tax and National Insurance. This equates to £1,987 per month and £459 per week.

Most people are putting down a grand a month rent or mortgage now - maybe £800 if lucky, £987 - £1187 a month to then pay electric and gas (250 a month now?), insurance, phone, food (easily 350-400 a month now!), fuel, car, car tax, ........987 quid won't get you far.

SO yeah 30k is a bare minimum, let alone trying to save up money.

 

[413x]

Ok, which has nothing to do with my point that it needs to be a basic living salary in general for full time work - you're partner is having the **** taken out of them for their level of responsibility as far as I can see for a marketing senior - how much does the CEO of the charity take home? or your partners boss? probably an absurd amount more, not very many charities I know who's CEO isn't driving a fancy car.......

My point is based on how much you need to live per month in the UK (as a minimum reletivily dignified living) for 1 person living in a rented or owned accommodation.

30k just barely gets you by without too many problems, assuming you keep your job forever. On a £30,000 salary, your take home pay will be £23,848 after tax and National Insurance. This equates to £1,987 per month and £459 per week.

Most people are putting down a grand a month rent or mortgage now - maybe £800 if lucky, £987 - £1187 a month to then pay electric and gas (250 a month now?), insurance, phone, food (easily 350-400 a month now!), fuel, car, car tax, ........987 quid won't get you far.

SO yeah 30k is a bare minimum, let alone trying to save up money.

Its not a great wage that's for sure. Especially if you're on the your own and not living with parents. Then yeah, you're going to live in a dive and not have much of a life either.

But a huge number of people are on much less

 

[OspreyO]

The reality is many jobs are not viable, in their location due to the cost of living.

 

[MatsyLR]

I'd say it 100% comes down to where your living and how irresponsible you are.

In the North East minimum wage is around £20k a year before taxes. Which is more than enough if your alone and your not living above your means with a £400k house on a 5% deposit or living in a house with rent of £700+ that you shouldn't be in. Easy enough to get monthy expenses below 1k up here.

But then you have to factor in what kind of life someone has lived up until that point and how much they have in monthly repayments. Most people have debt of some kind, now now now want want want

Food is where many people go wrong. Ditch the brand names. Easy to eat on under £100 a month without trying (one person) can get it lower if you put the slightest thought into it. I spend about £15 a week.

 

[Quartz]

Inflation is caused by billionaires & anti socialist governing

Point of order: the inflation we are currently seeing was caused in significant part by the government printing money during Covid to support the people. That's socialist governing. Then there's Putin's invasion of Ukraine causing food prices to rise. Billionaires are irrelevant this time around.

 

[OspreyO]

Point of order: the inflation we are currently seeing was caused in significant part by the government printing money during Covid to support the people. That's socialist governing. Then there's Putin's invasion of Ukraine causing food prices to rise. Billionaires are irrelevant this time around.

That for sure has compounded the problems.
But the existing disparity in wealth didn't go away and if anything it's got worse. But this is getting off topic.

So many companies are finding it hard to recruit. I'm not sure that a single person with no obligations scraping by being the only way a job is viable, isn't a great place for an economy to be. I know older people will say it's a rite of passage. But this feels different.

Where I work we've had many jobs open for very long time. Some with very decent salaries. We've also had a lot of churn, a revolving door of staff. HR insist on an ever increasing set of qualifications that we can't fill. We can't promote people with experience because they don't have these qualifications. It's a catch 22.

 

[Combat squirrel]

Point of order: the inflation we are currently seeing was caused in significant part by the government printing money during Covid to support the people. That's socialist governing. Then there's Putin's invasion of Ukraine causing food prices to rise. Billionaires are irrelevant this time around.

I really disagree, but that's what your opinion is - whats your thoughts on the energy industry taking home 10x the amount in profits (have you seen the graphs on that, its scary, 'normal' profits next to the profit taken this year a barely visible on the graphs) I think it was something along the lines of 2-10 billion usually, 100 billion nearly this year.

I think you'll find extracting that insane amount of money out of society is what's causing it - not the gov 'printing money'.

When you take 100 billion from society and put it in a handful of guys pockets to fester never to be seen again, that is what ruins society, at least money given out during covid goes back into circulation & moves between people.