I'm sick of emailin 20+ members so here it is......MATCHED BETTING by anksta

Going to try the Ladbrooks bonus now - £100. Should be interesting! You have to wager 4x the bonus = £400, but the bets have to be 10% so £10 each basically! 40 £10 bets. Ouch :o

Wish me luck! :p

Ladbrooks isn't on quidco sadly :(
 
mehuk said:
can i jsut check

if i back a 1-0, then lay against the 1-0

the outcome is the same as if i back a Win?

there is nothing else connected to a correct score that could screw me over?

im just desperate to find a 8+odds on my free stan james :(
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Back 1-0, lay the same 1-0. Nothing to screw you over :)
 
Well that was easy enough.

Deposited £100 into Ladbrokes.

Played Vega Strip Blackjack at £10 per hand.

played 40 hands to wager 4x my deposit.

Ended up with £175 plus my deposit winging it's way to me :D

Spoke to customer services to make sure everything was fine and it is. When I get the £100 bonus I just have to wager another £400 but this time at any amount so I can do £1 hands and then withdraw time! :D
 
Aaaargh I think I quit this whole arbing business.

It takes me ages to find an arb (manually, admittedly I'm not using the comparison sites as I dont have accounts at most of those bookies), and when I do it's only a small one. And then I dont win, yet pay comission to betfair. It's a little frustrating, I think I might have a go at this casino stuff instead.

Smokes do you have any tips on where you find most of your arbs? IE straight results, or "correct score", etc? I find the most consistently different odds are on "any unlisted score", you can get big arbs but a team would need to win 4-0 unexpectedly for you to take a profit.
 
I just use best betting. Admittidly I have 3 monitors setup and watch several markets throughout the day, so when I spot something moving I go and check prices and lump on :D

I just go for match result, ht/ft, cs and over/under markets. Because there isn't that much footy on, everyone is watching the same markets and the liquidity just isn't there. There has been two huge moves this morning on two champs league matches but thats it so far. :)
 
Smokes said:
I just use best betting. Admittidly I have 3 monitors setup and watch several markets throughout the day, so when I spot something moving I go and check prices and lump on :D

I just go for match result, ht/ft, cs and over/under markets. Because there isn't that much footy on, everyone is watching the same markets and the liquidity just isn't there. There has been two huge moves this morning on two champs league matches but thats it so far. :)
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How much clout (i.e finance) do you need to start this up full time?

I mean you must be laying ££££s on to pull out a living from this each day?

Also do you Bonus Bag alongside Arb'ing? Or have you done all them before?
 
I'd also be interested in knowing a couple more details smokes, as I'd consider doing this "full time" before going back to uni if I thought I could make more money than a "normal" job.

You think we could discuss a few details, say orders of magnitudes of capital needed and avg profit in private?

Many thanks
 
I originally started with a few thousand that I made from casinos and then used several credit cards to fund my bank. I probably had around 25k when I went full time and this still wasn't enough really. I spent most of my time moving money around to all the right places which was a right ball ache :o

I do bonus bag too, but there are very few left for me to do, so only do it when a new bookie pops up. I'm happy to answer most general questions, although I will keep some things to myself for obvious reasons :D Email and msn is [email protected]
 
I had a go at the casino bagging for the first time yesterday, not great : did william hill, took four hours and came out with £20 of the £50 bonus, so very dissappointing.

I'm tempted to do the big one, victor chandler £250 bonus for £5000 wagered, think it would be a 12 hour job though and I'm a bit worried about "busting out", I reckon I'd need to put £100 in to start with. Has anyone tried this one?
 
Can someone tell me if these figures seem right?

For the VC casino £250 bonus 5000 wager..

If blackholebonus is to be believed, the casino takes a margin of about 2.5% (this is probably a convservative figure anyway, as they WANT the comission from you clicking through to the casino), which equates to about £150 of the wager. So you only make on average £100 of the bonus, risking a couple of hundred of your own cash in the process, AND 15-20 hours of very boring work? Not sure it seems such a good idea any more.. :confused:
 
Not a fan of the casino bonus's any more,

Won a fair amount and lost the same, your just as likely to lose your money as you are to win some imo.

Also the fact that the casinos advertise on the casino bonus bagging pages, means that not everyone is winning from trying to get bonus's!
 
hungryhungry123 said:
Can someone tell me if these figures seem right?

For the VC casino £250 bonus 5000 wager..

If blackholebonus is to be believed, the casino takes a margin of about 2.5% (this is probably a convservative figure anyway, as they WANT the comission from you clicking through to the casino), which equates to about £150 of the wager. So you only make on average £100 of the bonus, risking a couple of hundred of your own cash in the process, AND 15-20 hours of very boring work? Not sure it seems such a good idea any more.. :confused:
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the house edge playing optimum strategy blackjack (if that game is indeed permitted for the sign up) is more like 0.5%, so you would expect to lose £25 of the bonus after completing the wagering. High wager bonuses like that I would tend to bet £5 a go - if you lose your £100 initial deposit you just have to redeposit and carry on until you get the bonus, since you are just a likely to make that 100 back over the next set of wagering as you were to lost it.....that's variance for you, so bet smaller to minimise it. Even at £2 a hand it won't take too long

If you are prepared to do (for example)the will hill monthly promotion with 500 wagering for a £25 bonus it is no different to the offer here, just 10x more wagering for 10x more money,and the fact you get the bonus after wagering makes no difference to the eventual profit/loss...

In the long term the odds are on your side to make a profit,and if you meet the wagering and you're £250 down you get the bonus and you still haven;t made a loss. In fact with the referral money you would still end up in profit

My profits for this month in the casinos? £958 :D
 
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bottletop said:
the house edge playing optimum strategy blackjack (if that game is indeed permitted for the sign up) is more like 0.5%
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I'm not fully convinced about that - VC doesn't really give too many details of what blackjack they play (how many decks) etc, so I'm not sure which strategy chart to use. The casino advertising mentioned above is also a good point. And after all this I still need to email VC asking for this bonus, and hope that they review my account favourably against the "The Casino encourages customers to participate in promotions, but to refrain from abusing them" terms and conditions. :confused:
 
hungryhungry123 said:
I'm not fully convinced about that - VC doesn't really give too many details of what blackjack they play (how many decks) etc, so I'm not sure which strategy chart to use. The casino advertising mentioned above is also a good point. And after all this I still need to email VC asking for this bonus, and hope that they review my account favourably against the "The Casino encourages customers to participate in promotions, but to refrain from abusing them" terms and conditions. :confused:
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I have done literally hundreds of casinos and never been turned down for a bonus after completing the wagering. They may look at your account after a month or 2 and ban you from receiving future bonuses, but the "offer a bonus then turn them down" would get the casino a very bad rep at places like casinomeister.

The strategy charts for singledeck/euro/multiple decks are all at wizardofodds.
Generally use the 8 deck strategy for standard BJ
 
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