I'm sorry AMD

cooljimy84

cooljimy84

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I love my AMD's, and they have been sooo good to me....

But i'm jumping ship, gonna use my old board and AMD 5200 as a file server....

Any way i'm thinking of getting me a quad core

Intel Core 2 Quad Pro Q6600 "Energy Efficient SLACR 95W Edition" 2.40GHz

But i'm not sure on what board to get, i've got watercooling and a huge case with loads of air and a 8800 GTX, but which board ???

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-271-AS
Which is DDR3

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-260-AS

Only troubble is i've only got 800 mhz DDR, so need better RAM any way....


Any helpful pointers would be loved...
 
cooljimy84 said:
Only troubble is i've only got 800 mhz DDR, so need better RAM any way....
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that'll get you to 3.6GHz anyway (9x400) & probably a bit more if the RAM overclocks any.

if you don't need SLI then don't buy an nVidia chipset mobo, imo they are overpriced.
 
cooljimy84 said:
I love my AMD's, and they have been sooo good to me....

But i'm jumping ship, gonna use my old board and AMD 5200 as a file server....

Any way i'm thinking of getting me a quad core

Intel Core 2 Quad Pro Q6600 "Energy Efficient SLACR 95W Edition" 2.40GHz

But i'm not sure on what board to get, i've got watercooling and a huge case with loads of air and a 8800 GTX, but which board ???

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-271-AS
Which is DDR3

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-260-AS

Only troubble is i've only got 800 mhz DDR, so need better RAM any way....


Any helpful pointers would be loved...
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Do me a favour, post your feelings when you're built and booted.
I can't help feeling something's odd about Intel after years of AMD based systems. There's a funny sort of latency or something to my mind, like it doesn't like to start doing anything. Don't get me wrong, it's not slow (far from it, it's terrifyingly quick), and you'd never say an application was running laggy. But, I dunno, everytime I give it BigJobs, it has to ponder for a sec before it races off. I fine example would be 3dMark06, which takes about 4 times as long to run (ie, with the splash screen open waiting to load controls) as on my AMD box, and promptly decimates it's scores once it runs. That's 2 Mobo's (1x790i 1xX48) and 7 installations of 4 versions of windows all behaving the same.

It's not an issue, or anything "wrong", I'm just mentioning it as you're another long time AMDer who's gonna try an Intel, be interesting to see if you notice anything different in how the machine performs, or if I'm imagining it (couple of mates say they noticed the same thing, but I'd prefer a more distant opinion)

Don't let it put you off Intel, it's nothing major (might be nothing at all), and the wee buggers FLY when you clock them.
 
cooljimy84 said:
I love my AMD's, and they have been sooo good to me....

But i'm jumping ship, gonna use my old board and AMD 5200 as a file server....

Any way i'm thinking of getting me a quad core

Intel Core 2 Quad Pro Q6600 "Energy Efficient SLACR 95W Edition" 2.40GHz

But i'm not sure on what board to get, i've got watercooling and a huge case with loads of air and a 8800 GTX, but which board ???

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-271-AS
Which is DDR3

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-260-AS

Only troubble is i've only got 800 mhz DDR, so need better RAM any way....


Any helpful pointers would be loved...
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Assuming you're AM2, and assuming your board is a good one, you could always just drop a 9850BE in... ;)
 
Another vote for the Ip35pro. And don't swap your memory yet. As stated 9 x 400 = 3.6Ghz might be as high as get your new cpu anyway so the memory won't be a factor.

And your ram might go higher with slacker timings. I only have 6400 ram but with 5-5-5-12 timings it is happy to run at 1066 with a FSB bus of 437.50Mhz. With a bit of tweaking I might yet get the ram stable at 875Mhz but I'm enjoying my new build atm playing The Witcher so I will get round to that later.
 
is there a reason you want a quad core? don't just buy one for the sake of it, because a dual core of around the same price could be quicker for some things.
 
To be honest i'm finding some of my games a bit jerky, need for speed pro street for one.. FEAR in places. I've got my 5200 running at just under 3.0 Ghz. but she does need 1.41 volts to do this.

Just want a quad to have a quad really, but as i'm moving across i might aswell go up to a quad.

Tute, are the 9850BE good ? might have a go with one of those, but i only use it for gaming and benches and watching DVD's....
 
In which case look at a 7200 or 8400 dual core instead. Looking at what you do, you don't need a quad unless you plan to keep a long time and feel that eventually more games will start and take advantage of all 4 cores.

As for difference in speed, I went from a 3Ghz 4200+ x2 to the rig in my sig and the difference is very, very noticable.

I gained 7000 points in 3dmark06 and more importantly 12fps (from 39 to 51) in crysis benchmark at 1280 x 1024 all high.

I haven't really tested any other games to compare since I don't have any notes on what I used to get but everything seems much nippier and smoother.

Overall, I can say that even at 3Ghz with my AMD rig I was cpu bottlenecked in a lot of games.
 
Well i've had the machine running for a good few weeks now, and to be honest, apart from re-encoding vidoes i can't see much diffrence.

Games are just as smooth, and 3dmark06 are a bit higher, but it does feel slow to respond....
but once it responds it quick....

to be honest i might get my old setup back up and running, do some back to back runnings of games etc.... I know no one would really care, but i would like to see how much of a diffrence in the real world there is


( i still love AMD )
 
well i would not spend so much on the board when it clock poor i rather go for x38 for what 140 quid 100 less overclocks more and with ati new cards man it just looks tasty.


specially when nehalm is just over the hill like a monster and i am saving for it
 
psychas said:
well i would not spend so much on the board when it clock poor i rather go for x38 for what 140 quid 100 less overclocks more and with ati new cards man it just looks tasty.


specially when nehalm is just over the hill like a monster and i am saving for it
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Thats a very good point, how ever i didn't go for either board.... not sure what i got but can post link
 
Sorry to butt-in here, but thegoonden posted about the AMD/INTEL up there, and I have to say that he is 100% spot on.

I have run AMD since ... Well, the 386 SX16 was my first AMD, I have had one cyric 333 and a P3 800 but apart from that, Iwas AMD all the way up to the Core2Duo, when I made the natural jump simply because they are so quick, however, I am now considering re-trying the AM2 and in fact, Im fully ready with all ther kit bar a new Mobo, because I am finding that while the jump from my OpteronDC @ 2.9 to the E6300 @ 1.8 was a fairly big jump, the jump to quad core with the Q6600 was a waste of time and my main PC is now a Q9450 and Im no longer impressed by Intel, and so I am giving AMD another try.

What he says about the Intels it completely true ( intel users will argue it but I, as well as many others notice it ) - Intels can often take a short while to get its gear together before it goes off and does it while the AMDS just do it.

I myself find that AMDs can multitask a hell of a lot better than intels can, always have.

Anyway, just something I felt I needed to add... Ill go off and carry on skulking in the corner with my "D" hat shall I?
 
cooljimy84 said:
i'm jumping ship
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Hehe almost sounds dramatic the way you say it! :eek:

cooljimy84 said:
Any way i'm thinking of getting me a quad core

Intel Core 2 Quad Pro Q6600 "Energy Efficient SLACR 95W Edition" 2.40GHz
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I can't recommend that processor, Kenstfield has been superceeded by new Wolfdale/Yorkfield tech and that's where your hard earned money £££ should be spent.

Faster processors that use less power to run, what's not to like. Now indeed the new tech will cost you more but I dare say you will recoup a lot of that expense through cheaper running costs. . .

Sound good to you? :)
 
Isnt it funny how you cannot recommend that CPU, and yet 10 minutes ago, we'd have killed for it.

In another 10 minutes, we will be saying dont go for the yorkie, go for this that or the other!!!!

Its true though, the newer CPUs are very efficient.
 
FatRakoon said:
I am finding that while the jump from my OpteronDC @ 2.9 to the E6300 @ 1.8 was a fairly big jump, the jump to quad core with the Q6600 was a waste of time and my main PC is now a Q9450 and Im no longer impressed by Intel, and so I am giving AMD another try.
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So because you noticed a big leap in performance from your AMD to your first Intel and then bought another Intel that wasn't as big a leap as the original one you're moving back and taking a fairly big leap backwards. :confused:
 
FatRakoon said:
Isnt it funny how you cannot recommend that CPU, and yet 10 minutes ago, we'd have killed for it.

In another 10 minutes, we will be saying dont go for the yorkie, go for this that or the other!!!!

Its true though, the newer CPUs are very efficient.
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Yes, this is why it is best to ignore virtually every piece of advice given in here about CPU recommendations and just make your own mind up.

Last year, you were a blithering idiot if you bought a dual core over a quad.
This year you are a blithering idiot if you buy a quad over a dual core.

Last year you were a blithering idiot if you bought a Ati card over an Nvidia card.
This year, everybody wet their pants about Ati and now hate Nvdia with a passion.
 
atpbx said:
Last year, you were a blithering idiot if you bought a dual core over a quad.
This year you are a blithering idiot if you buy a quad over a dual core.

Last year you were a blithering idiot if you bought a Ati card over an Nvidia card.
This year, everybody wet their pants about Ati and now hate Nvdia with a passion.
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i guess i'm a bleddering idiot

/taps q6600 + 8800gt :)
 
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