[IMPORTANT] If You are buying a 7900Gt read this [IMPORTANT]

[Jleo]

could you show me where they said the 2d voltage was the problem?

Post #1, Post #19 explain this sufficiently. You mind me of a dog I had, he was always full of life and eager to get fed when he seen me arriving with his bowl he jumped up and knocked it out of my hands so he always ate his dinner of the floor.

The lesson here is read thoroughly, and stop jumping to conclusions.

 

[james.miller]

Post #1, Post #19 explain this sufficiently. You mind me of a dog I had, he was always full of life and eager to get fed when he seen me arriving with his bowl he jumped up and knocked it out of my hands so he always ate his dinner of the floor.

I asked you to show where they said the voltage was the issue. You still haven't given me a link and i cant see anywhere on the forums or on their site where they mention that the 2d voltage was the problem.

http://www.evga.com/community/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17364 - nothing there
http://www.evga.com/articles/317.asp - nothing there either.

The lesson here is read thoroughly, and stop jumping to conclusions

yeah thats good advice, that.

This points to a possible voltage issue in 2d applications with earlier launch cards at a higher 2d voltage.

Your 'speculation' is meaningless. They havent said that, so dont try to push it as fact. Just because they altered the 2d/3d voltage offsets on the cards with these revisions, does not mean that's causing the death of so many 7900. Infact, it doesnt mean it's connected to the problem in any way, shape or form.

 

[Jleo]

No where in my post did I state that Evga had said anything

"This revision points at the possibilty that the card could not cope with the higher unecessary voltage during sustained periods of 2d operation which is possibly the reason why so many boards where dying. This points to a possible voltage issue in 2d applications with earlier launch cards at a higher 2d voltage."

The important word in my first post is "possible" look at my first post or is the meaning of this word beyond you.

Wrap your chops around this and stop riding my ass, here are the finding I based my post on, link below

http://www.evga.com/community/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15640

To the People who are going to buy an EVGA GeForce 7900 GT KO SuperClocked 512MB make sure you get the revised version, better safe than sorry.

 

[james.miller]

im 'riding your ass' becuase your being a twit. you jumped on me because i questioned the validity of your statement about voltage being the problem./ i aksed you where they said this, you stated your opinion as fact

Post #1, Post #19 explain this sufficiently. You mind me of a dog I had, he was always full of life and eager to get fed when he seen me arriving with his bowl he jumped up and knocked it out of my hands so he always ate his dinner of the floor.

The lesson here is read thoroughly, and stop jumping to conclusions.

i dont need to say anymore on that subject. You could take your own advice, however.

 

[Jleo]

No where in my post did I state that Evga had said anything

"This revision points at the possibilty that the card could not cope with the higher unecessary voltage during sustained periods of 2d operation which is possibly the reason why so many boards where dying. This points to a possible voltage issue in 2d applications with earlier launch cards at a higher 2d voltage."

The important word in my first post is "possible" look at my first post or is the meaning of this word beyond you.

Wrap your chops around this and stop riding my ass, here are the finding I based my post on, link below

http://www.evga.com/community/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15640

To the People who are going to buy an EVGA GeForce 7900 GT KO SuperClocked 512MB make sure you get the revised version, better safe than sorry.

Possibilty, possible, possibly how do you win with this guy?

 

[Jleo]

Evga BFG XFX all made by same company

I had read this a while back and just glanced over it, now it is making slightly more sense, the 7900 cards giving the most bother are the commercially overclocked cards. Hence the number of cards being Rma'd that are at stock speeds is very hard to determine because of the factory over clocked cards out there!!

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Also take a look at these 3 cards which are factory over clocked look at the heat sinks the better cooling option here is from the Sparkle badged 790+ which is cooling the ram also. Factory fitted cooling is always a topic for discussion but you have to admit the XFX is lacking. The Evga have a copper based cooling method though they do miss a memory chip on the middle right of the gpu board


GPU Clock: 560 MHz Memory Clock: 1.4 GHz (effective)

GPU Clock: 550 MHz Memory Clock: 1.63 GHz (effective)

 

[OC_A64]

Theres actually no contact between the cooler and the ram chips on either the XFX cards or the EVGA (the ones using the cooler as shown in the previous post on the XFX card anyway)
Ram cooling isnt a problem on these cards, the ram doesnt run hugely hot when kept at stock volts.
The 1.4 2d/3d voltage you mentioned is only for 1 of the EVGA cards - the KO superclocked (afaik it ran at 580 or 600 core stock???) not 100% sure on this but pretty sure it ran 2d/3d voltages anyway (don't quote me on that tho, need to go and do some digging)
Most of the GT's ran 1.2 in 2d and 3d so this isnt/wasnt really an issue. My XFX died within a few days, and it ran 1.2vGPU 2d/3d for the whole 5 days of its life, the EVGA here runs 1.4 (vModded) 24/7 and has no problems what so ever... Go figure!

It's a memory issue, downclocking the ram DOES fix the artifacting for 90% of people if they have the pre-oc'd cards. Remeber its not just GPU speed thats bumped up on the GT's it's memory too. Since the cards come with 1.4ns this gives a "stock" speed of 711mhz. Many of the pre-oc'd cards come with stock speeds in excess of this (ie XFX 520M = 520core, 1500mem). The cards are built/designed for 1320 mhz as a base clock. So not only are the cards running 180mhz over "stock" speeds but the rams rated speeds are exceeded too.. Clever...

 

[Jleo]

Thanks for the input if you check here http://www.evga.com/community/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15640

These guys have dmm checked a Evga borad and its volt stage for 2d and 3d have been revised.

The cards are built/designed for 1320 mhz as a base clock. So not only are the cards running 180mhz over "stock" speeds but the rams rated speeds are exceeded too.. Clever...

This really takes the biscuit, pushing their luck and loosing public favour. Yes too... clever LOL

 

[Cyber-Mav]

these cards are duds.

if they had this issue fixed with these card then i would have bought one.

 

[Jleo]

Ouch !! What you don'y want to see when gaming with your 7900Gt

 

[OC_A64]

Thanks for the input if you check here http://www.evga.com/community/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15640

These guys have dmm checked a Evga borad and its volt stage for 2d and 3d have been revised.

Yup, 2d/3d voltages have been added along with revised 2d/3d clockspeds. Not really sure what they're trying to achieve by that though however this probably reduces the strain on the regs when the cards not running 3d.
The extra "components" on the back are the "second stage" which allows varying 2d and 3d voltages to be run on these cards, so it does confirm this aspect of things. As noted above, theres not a lot of point to this IMO but if it solves the problem!

 

[Cyber-Mav]

by seperating 2d and 3d speeds and voltages all they manage to do is delay the inevitable.

 

[Darkwave]

Pics.

Holy cow!

 

[Jleo]

by seperating 2d and 3d speeds and voltages all they manage to do is delay the inevitable.

Possibly last to just beyond the warranty period if your unlucky

Holy cow!

Scary after spending big bucks!!