Improving home WiFi for 4k HDR local streaming

Corbula said:
I've currently got a router with only 2.4ghz WiFi and I believe due to where it is the WiFi strength is limited. I would also like faster WiFi just in one area for as I would like to start 4k hdr streaming (local bit Internet based) on my new TV. I currently get about 50mbps on WiFi.

I know it gets recommended a lot but please don't suggest running ethernet, I know it's better but I don't want to do that for various reasons.

I've tried getting an EAP225 access point but that wasn't really any better than the normal WiFi for strength due to walls and obstacles so that went back.

So the layout of the house to give you an idea is the router which is already connected to an old 200mbps Tp-link powerline with the other powerline up to a bedroom, these aren't gigabit and not WiFi either. So I'm thinking of replacing these with the WPA7510 kit to give hopefully fast enough WiFi in the bedroom (my TV Xf9005 is only 100mbps ethernet). Then get a single WPA4220 for the back room down stairs, this doesn't need the same speeds as its just general Internet browsing and phones and tablet.

With the WPA4220 only being homeplug AV and not AV2 would that slow everything down or just the WiFi from the WPA4220?

Sorry this is a long post but wanted to give as full a picture as possible. Any other recommendations instead of this would be much appreciated also, but again without running ethernet through the house.

Thanks for reading.
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I run WIFI and stream Vudu 4k Dolby Vision/Atmos content all across my place. Once I tried it on G level kit i knew I had to upgrade to AC.

My advice: use AC3200 triple-band class WIFI kit end-to-end if you can, if it does not work as intended send it back for a refund. Home plugs with dual band should be fine but the core router should be triple-band AC3200.

When i switched to AC3200 the distance, wall signal penetration and overall speed was a quantum leap over the G class kit i threw out.

The WPA7510 is a dual-band unit, it *should* be fast enough to run a top end VUDU stream at 45mbps. Will it run a full bandwidth HDR presentation? I don't see why not, it is worth a try.

Triple band AC3200 definitely will though as I do it myself.
 
Given that 4K can hit over 100Mbit, 45Mbit seems woefully inadequate, even allowing for buffering, also the homeplugs comment is highly questionable given you have no idea what the op’s wiring is like or if the devices are on the same circuit, besides if he’s using homeplug Wi-fi then the ‘core router’ being AC3200 is irrelevant as it’s not a wireless bridge scenario, and if it were you’d be halving the speed anyway.
 
Avalon said:
Given that 4K can hit over 100Mbit, 45Mbit seems woefully inadequate, even allowing for buffering, also the homeplugs comment is highly questionable given you have no idea what the op’s wiring is like or if the devices are on the same circuit, besides if he’s using homeplug Wi-fi then the ‘core router’ being AC3200 is irrelevant as it’s not a wireless bridge scenario, and if it were you’d be halving the speed anyway.
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your own opinion, from my own experience i have had zero problems with any content streaming, mkv or iso. line of sight for me is 500mbps, through a wall it’s about half that.

hence - go buy the kit, try it in
you own place and return if it does not work don’t assume either way.
 
Besty said:
your own opinion, from my own experience i have had zero problems with any content streaming, mkv or iso. line of sight for me is 500mbps, through a wall it’s about half that.

hence - go buy the kit, try it in
you own place and return if it does not work don’t assume either way.
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I’m not sure you’re using the same definition of opinion as I do.

The op clearly states he has tested 60/90/120Mbit files with issues on 90+ and below that worked fine, and up-to 85Mbit is OK, that’s a fact (see post 14). The only way you see bit-rates that high in the wild (without specifically creating them artificially) is using a 1:1 REMUX, I can cite specific films and scenes if you really want, but again that’s a fact. You being able to play whatever you are playing at 45Mbit is lovely, but utterly irrelevant to the conversation taking place and you’d obviously realise that if you had read the thread. Other facts include a wireless bridges halving bandwidth and unless you’ve been in the op’s home you don’t know the electrical systems condition or how products he hasn’t used will perform. Non of that is my opinion.

If you want to contribute and extol the virtues of your set-up then that’s great, how about you grab 90/120Mbit files and report back? Then you can give us relevant facts on what is being discussed.
 
Avalon said:
I’m not sure you’re using the same definition of opinion as I do.

snip.
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just to restate my above post in a single sentence:

Using AC Wi-fi radios and AC endpoint = no issues for me at all, ever, using Blu-ray UHD files being played using Kodi using either line of sight or through a single wall.
 
Besty said:
just to restate my above post in a single sentence:

Using AC Wi-fi radios and AC endpoint = no issues for me at all, ever, using Blu-ray UHD files being played using Kodi using either line of sight or through a single wall.
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While that's great it works for you unfortunately not for me. I've tried improving the WiFi but like the ethernet port being limited to 100mb the WiFi on the TV is similarly poor. My options it seems is make do with cable or get a better media device to play media through hdmi to the TV.
 
Corbula said:
While that's great it works for you unfortunately not for me. I've tried improving the WiFi but like the ethernet port being limited to 100mb the WiFi on the TV is similarly poor. My options it seems is make do with cable or get a better media device to play media through hdmi to the TV.
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You forgot encoding you’re media to a more appropriate format.
 
Corbula said:
While that's great it works for you unfortunately not for me. I've tried improving the WiFi but like the ethernet port being limited to 100mb the WiFi on the TV is similarly poor. My options it seems is make do with cable or get a better media device to play media through hdmi to the TV.
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i use an nvidia shield running kodi wired into an ac wi-fi endpoint.
 
Corbula said:
Yes it's the device like nvidia shield I need but would run a hdmi to the TV instead. Do you still run the TV on WiFi?
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Yes, you will need to run a HDMI cable from the shield to the TV.

I do not run WIFI on the TV for any media playback (Sony A1 OLED in living room, Sony LCD in bedroom), I just run WIFI on the TV's for firmware updates from Sony. You don't need to do this and it is optional to run WIFI from the TV.

For most things the AC 3200 Router>AC WIFI Endpoint>RJ45 Wire>Shield>Kodi>HDMI>TV combo is all I need to use. And I can also load up Vipr VPN onto the Shield via the official Google app store.

Apart from 'normal TV via Virgin' the only reason I do not use my Shield for everything is because the Apple TV box supports Dolby Vision (HDR only on the Shield) and also Dolby Atmos can work in more scenarios. You may want these for Ultra HD content but for 1080p Bluray content, or for playing on a spare room TV, you won't need Vision or Atmos.
 
I discovered if my 5GHz channel is set below 100 I can't stream 4K HDR movies from my NAS (Raspberry Pi 4), it constantly keeps buffering. If I set it to 100+ it plays fine. Yet the internet speed is the same between them (100 MB). I guess the local wireless speed is faster on the 100+ channels?

Also, is it bad (for the neighbours) to have it set to 100/80 MHz?
 
Haven't looked back since getting the BT mesh wifi kit. 4K streaming of 50GB files no problem. I'm ethernet at both ends mind. Server into switch which one disk is also plugged in to and downstairs my Shield is ethernet to a switch with another disk hanging off it, so the only wireless is between the 2 disks.
 
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