In at the deep end; water cooling my SM8 ;s

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Background; apart from having built a couple of PC's a few years back, my interest in anything more than gaming and working on PC's was until recently minimal; it was only when I bought a second monitor and my old GTX580 started complaining (i.e. became noisey as xxxx) whilst running 2 x WoW and stuff that I downloaded GPU-Z and Coretemp to see how hot things were getting.

The gpu was hitting high 80s and my i7 2600k was hovering between 65-75 degrees while raiding on one screen and AH-ing on the other. I ended up buying an H80i which fixed the cpu temps, then an HAF-X to try and reduce the gpu temps with some more case air flow. I was going to try the Antec 620 gpu cooling solution but after sitting on this forum and a couple of others and seeing what people were doing and what awesome hardware there is about now I got the new toys bug big time. I'd like to start learning more about over clocking and I thought I'd get myself some shiny-er stuff to break while doing so.

Apart from taking apart/putting back together a couple of PCs and some very basic OCing of my 2600k my experience is about, hmm, nothing. I'm sure there will be plenty of people cringing and thinking 'what a waste!'. Consequently this thread will probably contain a lot of stupid questions and be filled with a lot of school boy errors for people to ridicule :)

Anyway, having a few quid spare, I've decided to build a fairly high-spec water cooled rig from scratch. It will probably all go horribly wrong but whatever happens it will still be a lot cheaper than playing with cars which is my other hobby ;p Hopefully if I can pull it off with my non-existent skill set it may encourage someone else to have a go :)

So, TLDR version; I've now got a load of shiny bits and pieces lying about and I'm nervously looking forward to trying to put them altogether and get them working together - hopefully without breaking too much...

Anyway, the first of MANY terrible pics to come from my iphone - the obligatory 'look at my shiny new stuff'-shot:

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Wanted to get everything else sorted before the case arrived, so ended up randomly ordering various Bitspower compression fittings to cover a few eventualities:

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The parts list is as follows;

I7 3930K
Corsair Dominator Plats 4x4gb
Asus Rampage IV Extreme
Corsair AX1200
2x EVGA Titans
2x XSPC Titan blocks + back plates
Koolance 380i
XSPC clear Highflex tube
EK EK-FB RE4 kit
OCUK XSPC D5 pump and top combo
Bitspower Z-Multi 150mm res
Load of blood red Bitspower compression fittings
2x Koolance VL3N QDC's
Alphacool 480 Monsta
Alphacool 240 Monsta
Bunch of Scythe Gentles/Noiseblockers
Lamptron Touch fan controller
Samsung 256gb 840 Pro
Crucial 256gb M4

I'm already in love with the case. The HAF-X was a revelation in cases compared to my little ******** box - but the SM8 is just in a totally different universe - really is a lovely piece of kit and Jim @ Caselabs couldn't be more helpful. Unfortunately, both doors and the centre divider were damaged (gg FEDEX :/) in transit but less than a week later I have replacements on their way from California...

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The fact you can extend it top and bottom means it should fulfil my needs amply should I find more space somewhere at later date . I loved the look of the Monsta rads and wanted something that would fit a 480 P/P in the roof but would still fit under a desk, the XSPC H2 and the LD Cooling stuff all looked a bit too tall whereas the Merlin looked like I'd be able to house it. Slapping it together was fun, no issues apart from the damaged panels; I would've liked to have it reversed but it doesn't really fit my desk layout for one reason or another, and tbh, I'm so used to having things the normal way it'd probably have confused me ;P

Still waiting on a few bits, the CPU block being one of them, plus a couple of Koolance QDC's and some more fans.

I was concerned as to whether a 480 Monsta was going to fit in the SM8, on paper it should but I couldn't find any pictures that showed exactly how well. My concerns were fairly well founded - it's a pretty tight fit. I'll probably have to stand it off the top of the case a few mil as one end tank is hard up against a captive nut. I have the 31mm vented top cover on its way with the replacement doors so there will be ample room for the fans pulling on top.

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The WC loop will be cpu block, chipset blocks, gpu blocks x2, 480, 240, res, pump - just need to work out where to put everything - ideas gratefully received! (I'll raffle my spare AC3 and Metro Last Light codes off to those who've helped me along the way when I'm done, bribery>begging).

I'm considering chopping up the front 240 mount as I think I *may* be able to gain another drive bay slot if the 240 is sat on the floor. That way I could consider a double drive bay res which would mean I wouldn't have to drill holes to mount the Bitspower res which I really don't want to do...

That's about where I'm at for now. Pushed for time atm unfortunately. Not sure whether to mount the chipset blocks before the cpu block arrives or if that'll make fitting the latter harder. I'll hopefully remove one of the Titans from my 2600k box tomorrow and fit one of the blocks and the one backplate I have so far (leaving the other in my 2600k as long as poss before chucking my 580 back in it). And may be look at the chipset blocks if I have time.

Apologies for the massive amount of text thus far. For now - peace o/
 
Got the first Titan block and backplate fitted, not going to lie was bricking it a bit ;p

Gulp;
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Came apart ok, TIM still gooey \o/;
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Cleaned up ready for block;
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Thermal pads in place, fingers were a bit wibbly trying to get the backing strips off!
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Job done;
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Left out the pics where I finished fitting the block - then remembered there was a backplate - so had to remove all the screws again to fit that, pr0 :D

Did the chipset blocks next; no issues apart from nearly dropping the mobo on the floor once...

Standard cooling removed;
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SB cleaned up;
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Blocks fitted;
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And back on to the mobo tray to keep out of harms way until the 380 arrives;
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Stuck the blocked Titan back in 2600k briefly to make sure it still worked, thankfully it does ;d So removed again, fitted to RIVE and back in the SM8 out fo the way for now;
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Going to get busy in the middle when the cpu blocks fitted; thought plumbing everything in would be easy but its going to take some thought and a lot of fitting and removing I think to get it half right ;s

The random tube between Titan and mosfet block was just to test how the various fittings work, having never touched one before. 480 with fittings at the front might enable me to fit a 120 fan in the top 3 bays, I think I might be short on intake in some possible scenarios so this is somewhat appealing even if the top part of the fan will be smashing air into the rads end tank;
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480 with fittings at the rear makes the top two bays dead space but is probably more convenient from a plumbing point of view;
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Time to spend a while looking through other peoples builds to hopefully find some inspiration as to how best to plumb everything in...

End of day 2 - nothing broken yet \o/
 
Replacement doors, centre section (which I said I could live with as was), front cover and extended top cover plus a couple of other bits I added turned up today; really cant praise Jim and Kevin's customer service.

Thinking about sticking the 240 on the floor instead of in flex bays maybe. That or chopping off the bottom 5mm or so of the 240 flex bay mount and cover so the 240 bottom end tank will sit on the case floor and gain me another drive bay (with a bit of re-drilling of mounting holes), cause there's no way the 120 fan mount will fit with the 480 in p/p at the top. And I really want the option of having a 3 bay device option atm...

Still waiting for the cpu block to arrive so plumbing is still up in the air anyway so I have a bit more time to think about the front of the case. Might try some cable sleeving in the mean time to keep me busy ;p If that goes bad, I'll starting painting the blades of my flock of Gentles white ;d
 
Finally found a couple of hours to get something done now the cpu block has arrived \o/

3930K ready for block;
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Koolance 380i - shiny! Had a couple of goes mounting it using different paste applications/amounts, probably remove and refit again before filling as there's probably still a little too much in there; fitting on LGA2011 is a 2 minute job - screw in the 4 posts, fit block over posts, chuck on a few plastic washers, springs and thumb screws, done :)
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Block fitted; initial fitting and the start of a lot of frustration trying to work out how to plumb everything in - kind of regret a) using the chipest block cause it would've been a lot cleaner/easier without it, and b) going for 1/2-3/4 tube and fittings, as it restricts what fittings can be used where when in close proximity to another fitting or component ;s Hey ho, bit late now! ;p
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Version one plumbing of mobo etc; don't think I'll have any finger prints left by the time I'm done, fitting/removing knurled compression fittings a million times will see to that. Not that keen on the tight loops, though I don't think the options are that extensive. The SB ports are too closely spaced to allow two normal fittings, cpu block just about has enough room;
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Missing a Titan but otherwise a complete loop apart from 480 back to res - hate it!
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Swapped a few bits about, with the intention of swapping the 240 round; not sure about a 90 straight out of the pump, but its a lot nicer than the original version;
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Going to swap the 240 around now and see what it looks like properly fitted up. After that, I'm going to try flipping the 480 around so the ports are at the back of the case close to the blocks. More finger print shredding, yay :'(

Airflow; p/p on both rads, hopefully the front to back 120s will help the temps of the air that the 480 sucks;
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Also have an OCUK D5/XSPC top combo and BitsP res as an alternative to the XSPC bay res/pumps. Hmmm...
 
Swapped the 480 around, think this is what I'll go with possibly with some tweaking. Just want to get it up and running and play with it for a bit!

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Need a couple of more fittings, looks a bit less tortuous a loop hopefully??
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A non-bay res/pump mounted on the back plate above the 240 would neaten it up more, but I think I'll go with the twin bay res for now so I don't have to worry about mounting (drilling). Need to get the other Titan blocked up, order the last fittings and some juice then should be good to go :)

Not sure how tight or how best to tighten the fittings and compression rings?? And if anyone has any bright ideas on improving the loop I'd love to hear them!
 
I think you will want to make that out take at the rear an intake.

It will balance your pressure and bring in more fresh air.

Also I would feed the titans straight into the larger block at the top, that's where you want to dissapate the most amount of heat, if you do it at the rad at the bottom you are feeding in the hottest air back into the case.
 
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From your air flow diagram your using the bottom rad as an intake so its blowing warmed air into the case over a big piece of tubing with metal fittings in it that returns to your res.

I may be wrong but doesnt that mean youll be heating up your returning water and once that metal fitting gets warm it will keep its heat? also having the affect that its close to your duel d5's warming them up with the air flow from the rad?
 
Airflow; p/p on both rads, hopefully the front to back 120s will help the temps of the air that the 480 sucks;
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I'd turn the rear fan around so it's an intake instead of an exhaust. That way you'll balance out the pressure. Other than that your loop's looking good, and there's so many options to change things with that case.
 
I figured front intake> rear exhaust would help case air flow a bit and move some of the hot air coming out of the 240 out of the case giving the 480 a bit cooler air. But I'll take your advise and make them both intake as I have no experience personally!

I've indicated the loop flow, the bay res output is on the top if that wasn't obvious; mosfet>sb>480>cpu>gpus>240>res. I have a couple of QDC's to introduce to make maintenance easier.

I could swap inlet/outlet on the res and reverse the loop, not sure if that would be beneficial. I think this is about as 'nice' as I can get the tube runs, unless I'm missing something, other options would mean really short tube lengths which would be very tight bends.

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Unfortunately I've found way less time to play with the SM8 and setup than I'd anticipated. There's a lot more I wanted to do before putting it together, painting fans, sleeving everything etc but I think I'm going to concede my time constraints atm aren't going to let me do that any time soon. So I'm going to give the loop a bit more thought and then bite the bullet and get it up and running.

When more time allows, I'll get back to playing with it some more, I'd like to see how she runs and enjoy using it!
 
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