Indian Grand Prix 2011, Buddh International Circuit - Race 17/19

[Duke]

Jenson Button has escaped a penalty during Q3 and will start from 4th on the grid. He was addressed by the stewards after the Massa shunt.

Good to hear

 

[Duke]

Grid for tomorrow now confirmed

Pos  Driver                Team
 1.  Sebastian Vettel      Red Bull-Renault
 2.  Mark Webber           Red Bull-Renault
 3.  Fernando Alonso       Ferrari
 4.  Jenson Button         McLaren-Mercedes
 5.  Lewis Hamilton        McLaren-Mercedes
 6.  Felipe Massa          Ferrari
 7.  Nico Rosberg          Mercedes
 8.  Adrian Sutil          Force India-Mercedes
 9.  Sebastien Buemi       Toro Rosso-Ferrari
10.  Jaime Alguersuari     Toro Rosso-Ferrari
11.  Michael Schumacher    Mercedes
12.  Paul di Resta         Force India-Mercedes
13.  Pastor Maldonado      Williams-Cosworth
14.  Bruno Senna           Renault
15.  Rubens Barrichello    Williams-Cosworth
16.  Vitaly Petrov         Renault
17.  Kamui Kobayashi       Sauber-Ferrari
18.  Heikki Kovalainen     Lotus-Renault
19.  Jarno Trulli          Lotus-Renault
20.  Sergio Perez          Sauber-Ferrari
21.  Jerome D'Ambrosio     Virgin-Cosworth
22.  Daniel Ricciardo      HRT-Cosworth
23.  Narain Karthikeyan    HRT-Cosworth
24.  Timo Glock            Virgin-Cosworth

 

[Duke]

The fluttering front wing saga of Massa's Ferrari may continue tomorrow..

http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/10/29/massas-fluttering-front-wing-is-the-story-not-over-yet/

Heh, could be good

 

[Duke]

DAB radios (auto clock change) for the win

 

[Duke]

Pretty good race but so dusty it must have been hard off line. Steady race for Vet and Button, had to agree with penalty for Massa as he benefited from turning in on Lewis, who had to pit. The commentators seemed to miss that I think.

 

[Duke]

 

[Duke]

Race results & table



Race

[b]Pos  Driver        Team                       Time[/b]
 1.  Vettel        Red Bull-Renault           1h30:35.002
 2.  Button        McLaren-Mercedes           +     8.433
 3.  Alonso        Ferrari                    +    24.301
 4.  Webber        Red Bull-Renault           +    25.529
 5.  Schumacher    Mercedes                   +  1:05.421
 6.  Rosberg       Mercedes                   +  1:06.851
 7.  Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes           +  1:24.183
 8.  Alguersuari   Toro Rosso-Ferrari         +     1 lap
 9.  Sutil         Force India-Mercedes       +     1 lap
10.  Perez         Sauber-Ferrari             +     1 lap
11.  Petrov        Renault                    +     1 lap
12.  Senna         Renault                    +     1 lap
13.  Di Resta      Force India-Mercedes       +     1 lap
14.  Kovalainen    Lotus-Renault              +    2 laps
15.  Barrichello   Williams-Cosworth          +    2 laps
16.  D'Ambrosio    Virgin-Cosworth            +    2 laps
17.  Karthikeyan   HRT-Cosworth               +    3 laps
18.  Ricciardo     HRT-Cosworth               +    3 laps
19.  Trulli        Lotus-Renault              +    4 laps

Fastest lap: Vettel, 1:27.457

[b]Not classified/retirements:[/b]

Driver        Team                         On lap
Massa         Ferrari                      33
Buemi         Toro Rosso-Ferrari           25
Maldonado     Williams-Cosworth            13
Glock         Virgin-Cosworth              3
Kobayashi     Sauber-Ferrari               1

World Championship standings, round 17:

[b]Drivers:                    Constructors:             [/b]
 1.  Vettel       374        1.  Red Bull-Renault          595
 2.  Button       240        2.  McLaren-Mercedes          442
 3.  Alonso       227        3.  Ferrari                   325
 4.  Webber       221        4.  Mercedes                  145
 5.  Hamilton     202        5.  Renault                    72
 6.  Massa         98        6.  Force India-Mercedes       51
 7.  Rosberg       75        7.  Toro Rosso-Ferrari         41
 8.  Schumacher    70        8.  Sauber-Ferrari             41
 9.  Petrov        36        9.  Williams-Cosworth           5
10.  Heidfeld      34       
11.  Sutil         30       
12.  Kobayashi     27       
13.  Alguersuari   26       
14.  Di Resta      21       
15.  Buemi         15       
16.  Perez         14       
17.  Barrichello    4       
18.  Senna          2       
19.  Maldonado      1

 

[Duke]

I think the penalty was given as Hamilton has to pit because of the crash and Massa didn't. It evened it out between them.

 

[Duke]

I changed the gif slightly

 

[Duke]

Managed to catch the race live, before the train. Reasonably interesting.
Can't believe massa got penalty. Stupid stewards, have they ever heard of racing inciedent and not every collision should be punished, in fact it should be a rarity.

So you think its okay for Massa to turn in and damage Hamiltons wing without taking a hit himself? If both didn't take damage then it would have been unfair.

 

[Duke]

I would love for them to do something "outrageous" for a season. Scrapping qualifying and making your starting place depending on your championship position for example, leader at back working forwards.

Thats just one crazy example, but they really need to make the sport more interesting. Not only are the races dire, but qualifying is a non issue anymore. Some of the teams dont even set times, and they always seem to hold back to save tyre sets.

Throwing them all in the same car would generate good racing - but when a Ferrari isn't really a Ferrari, it would kinda suck.

Go watch GP2 or something :/

 

[Duke]

Yeah great input there.

I'm not on my own island in the belief that F1 is becoming unattractive.

The BBC say they have more and more viewers watching? F1 has always been about the technical and team side more than hundreds of overtakes per lap, which we have seen far more of this year and last year. Yet people still complain?

 

[Duke]

Hamilton on the other hand, is having collisions, every other race. Note: it is not his race/quali pace which is bad, just the high collision rate.

I'd normally agree but he was actually slow yesterday as well.

For the record, in all my time watching F1, I have never seen a front running driver have so many collisions.

Montoya?

 

[Duke]

If McLaren deliver another poor car at the start of the year I would expect Lewis to announce he is on the driver market quite soon after.

This.

 

[Duke]

it is strange how he can race wheel to wheel with everyone else apart from massa, hes had great racing with jenson a few times and with webber not so long ago. its just with massa it ends in contact every time. is it massa or is it hamilton.

I think Massa just doesn't know how to race and yield when clearly being overtaken.

 

[Duke]

Bring back all the ways of making overtaking impossible? Great.

Surprised no-one has mentioned V12s again yet.

 

[Duke]

There is no rule about which compounds of tyre should be used, or if there should be a 1 compound gap in them. Pirelli just stated that they would try and do that wherever possible to spice up the racing.

Yep, they can bring whichever two compounds they want to.

 

[Duke]

And then there's people like me, piggy-in-the-middle, hoping that he finds some proper form next year to placate both sides of what has become a particularly dull argument....

Same here.

 

[Duke]

What a ****.

 

[Duke]

Race edit is out - http://www.formula1.com/video/?uid=2011103017R