Inexcusable: Spider Man 3’s Graphics for Wii

I was going to mention Excite Truck actually. I still haven't completely finished it yet (only a few Super challenges to go mind!), and it's an ace game. The control system is fantastic too, as it is in Kororinpa.
 
Weebull said:
I was going to mention Excite Truck actually. I still haven't completely finished it yet (only a few Super challenges to go mind!), and it's an ace game. The control system is fantastic too, as it is in Kororinpa.
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im completed excite mode then super excite mode then it told me to do mirror mode or summit so i told it to do 1 :p

brilliant game tho, 4 player split screen or 20 player online would have been amazing
 
Yeah, I'm really enjoying Excite Truck too.

Only negative thing is the cheesy soundtrack, but playing MP3s via SD card more than makes up for it. Otherwise, it's a great game.
 
First thing I think when I see half arzed graphics like that is that the gameplay is going to be half arzed too. It's not that I put graphics first most of my fave games on the Wii are VC games.

The look of the game looks like the people that made it can't be bothered so if that'd their attitude the gameplay is likely to be awful too. I'm not sure if graphics is the right word more like no artistic nature was used.
 
I like how people quickly jump and start going off on how the Wii is having some new games coming soon, followed by small lists of whatever comes out within the next few months.

We're only looking at how bad the graphics are on this particular game, no need to get so defensive, Nintendoids!
 
KNiVES said:
I like how people quickly jump and start going off on how the Wii is having some new games coming soon, followed by small lists of whatever comes out within the next few months.

We're only looking at how bad the graphics are on this particular game, no need to get so defensive, Nintendoids!
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well someones gotta be defensive with all the PS3 fanboys trying to turn as much negative attention away from the gaystation as possible :p
 
KNiVES said:
I like how people quickly jump and start going off on how the Wii is having some new games coming soon, followed by small lists of whatever comes out within the next few months.

We're only looking at how bad the graphics are on this particular game, no need to get so defensive, Nintendoids!
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Well people were attacking the console not the game.
 
if nintendo fans want something to respond to thats real, i think the Wii's crap. my rents got one as they heard about it and saw it at a friends house while over for a meal. i got twilight princess, its not good, Wii sports is retarded and so overly basic and pathetic you can infact play without looking at the screen. i can play CS:S and when dead waiting for a new round wave my arms around, and have a fun game, with good graphics and everything the Wii has to offer at the same time :p

quite frankly *** Wii's numbers are artificial at best. the 360 and PS3 , well 95% of owners buy it for the games, and will buy a certain percentage of the big releases. so dev's can know if they make a game for the 360, if its an AAA title and they can guess they'll sell 20%. with a HUGE number of Wii's ending up in houses with people who WON'T be buying the new big games, it will take a while to know how well the Wii will do, and dare i say it, when the fad will pass. people are talking about all the dev's jumping ship to make games, but are they making a Wii exclusive Crysis game(as in AAA title, thats gonna most likely be fantastic and not have much else comparable to it), or are they all just porting over games in, probably not as badly as Spidey 3 has been done. but are they just looking for a cheap buck, they make games optimized for a very similar amount of graphical power available on ps3/360, then make a port and just turn a bunch of stuff off/down so it plays on the Wii. out of all those games coming out this year for the Wii, a huge number are games aimed at very young kids, and are basic and i don't want to be mean, but no where near the level of game you get on 360/ps3 in general.


overhyped, lack of games, lack of power, overpriced novelty. the control method can and should be released on other consoles or the PC. theres nothing technologically innovated, gyration mice have been out for YEARS on pc's, just not used effectively. lightguns for over a decade, maybe two, are also a wireless device used to simulate real life usage. i'm just utterly shocked pc, ps2, ps1, gamecube, xbox, 360 hasn't done it before. theres nothing difficult about it.


EDIt:- ps, i had huge hopes for nintendo, i give them HUGE credit for finally doing it, i give them no credit for the cost of controllers, no credit for the ludicrous console shortage or price, its stupidly old hardware and tech, same way a 8 pipe card was £300 on release and £30 now, how the heck is it similarly priced to a 360, it should be half the price. also i feel like they've made a fantastic control system and no games that make full use of it. wheres the hack and slash real control sword fighting game? theres a budget game, can't recall the name, on pc that gives you full control of the sword fighting by moving mouse certain ways, you can block real attacks and attack in any way you like. Wii would be perfect for that, games are entirely lacking. lots of people that have a Wii are perfectly happy just having wii sports and wii play, especially the older people that buy it for dinnerparty fun, and i doubt very much they'll buy more than 1 or 2 more games, hence game sales i think will be terrible in the long run despite massive console sales so far.
 
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overhyped, lack of games, lack of power, overpriced novelty. the control method can and should be released on other consoles or the PC. theres nothing technologically innovated, gyration mice have been out for YEARS on pc's, just not used effectively. lightguns for over a decade, maybe two, are also a wireless device used to simulate real life usage. i'm just utterly shocked pc, ps2, ps1, gamecube, xbox, 360 hasn't done it before. theres nothing difficult about it.
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its not the technology thats difficult to harness its the bringing it to market and making it a success and nintendo have done that better than anyone else could have.

For me they are the only true games company, they put there heart and soul into what they do, and you can tell that,

fair enough you might not like it, you might prefer to pretend your some mad soldier in the future shooting alien armies well maybe some of us prefer to be fat little italian plumbers who jump up and down, run through green pipes and try to bed the hot princess, just depends what floats your boat.

I'd be the first to admit that nintendo have lost there touch and direction but i don't think they have and i don't think they will not for a long time yet. For me they are still the only true innovators
 
drunkenmaster said:
EDIt:- i give them no credit for the cost of controllers, no credit for the ludicrous console shortage or price, its stupidly old hardware and tech
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if it was over priced it would not sell simple, nintendo arent there to sell you stuff as cheap as possible they are there to make as much money as possible, yes it maybe old technology and hardware but its being used/marketed in a new way.

The console shortage story was probably partially a marketing stunt that backfired, and partially a suprise at the popularity of the system, as i said above if you don't like it go play your 360 or PS3 and leave the real gamers to play the Wii
 
drunkenmaster said:
rambling crap
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Everyone's entitled to their opinion on a game, you think Twilight Princess is crap, while many will disagree much the same as I think Halo and R6:GR is overrated rubbish, so I'll let that one pass.

Second paragraph is incomprehensible. Again, I'll let that one pass as quite frankly, I don't think you knew what you wanted to say in the first place.

Overhyped? Maybe.

Lack of games? Yeah, I agree.

Lack of power? Depends what you want.

Overpriced? Er, well it's the old muppets who are lurking at the back of this forum who claimed they we're miffed about the Wii been £29 more than what was rumoured. Shame on you Nintendo.

Control method can and should be released on other consoles? Yeah, I agree, but no one had the balls to do it. (see my point coming up...)

Nothing technologically innovated? That's right, give us a KISS, or Keep It Simple Stupid. Sorry, should Nintendo have created something more innovative and again let the 'muppets' moan even more about the price.

What's more innovative? Using existing technology at it's best or developing something new that doesn't work?

Light guns for over a decade? (This is my other point). Actually it's been nearly 2 decades, and what games have dominated lightgun games? Shooters!! And how many shooters are on the Wii? Not many, most of the games are alternatives making use of the 'light gun' slightly differently.


The problem is with the majority of people is they jump on the bandwagon. Microsoft are condemnded for the poor build of their equipment and the Sony fanboys rattle their cages. Sony boost up the price of a console with little launch titles and the Microsoft fanboys throw down their rattles are show their backsides to the world. Nintendo release a new piece of kit which they never ever in a million years branded as Next-Gen (unlike Microsoft and Sony) but offer a new way of playing and the spoilt little brats in the MS and Sony corners kick off on one.

Well you can keep your faulty hardware Microsoft, you can keep your overpriced 20Gb harddrive (sorry, sounded like someone moaning about the state of old tech been expensive, silly me), you can keep your £50 wireless adapter and you can keep your titles that are half finished and same old. As for you Sony, you too can keep your overpriced console that has shown ZERO promise. You can keep that bloody BlueRay thing that I've seen NO titles for at all, and as for that Sixaxis controller with the USB controller that falls out when I get up and shove it.

Now excuse me while I press the little button on my Wii, insert a CD (hmm, quiet and reliable, just what I paid for), and let me play something innovative.
 
Nzyme said:
if it was over priced it would not sell simple, nintendo arent there to sell you stuff as cheap as possible they are there to make as much money as possible, yes it maybe old technology and hardware but its being used/marketed in a new way.

The console shortage story was probably partially a marketing stunt that backfired, and partially a suprise at the popularity of the system, as i said above if you don't like it go play your 360 or PS3 and leave the real gamers to play the Wii
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i am a real gamer, i like mario games, i'd maybe get the new proper mario game. however i'm a gamer who back in n64 days bought super mario world and thought it was amazing, but i don't think every crap game based on mario is good just because its mario. hell, mario kart on the snes was such an awesome game and its n64 successor i thought was pants and just no where near as fun. i feel that from those days when the games and gameplay were what its about, N64 goldeneye was freaking brilliant, and you're basically a soldier running around. however it went from that to making gimmicky games and has gone backwards ever since. right now there isn't a good mario game on the Wii, super paper mario(out in us i believe and not here for several months, because its so hard in this day and age to get enough copies printed for worldwide release?) looks interesting. i don't think its bad because it has bad graphics, i though super mario 3 was great and its the same style of game, but i feel the spinning the world to make it faux 3d is more of a gimmick than anything else. all the super smash bros stuff i don't enjoy and that seems to be the area nintendo have focused on for a LONG time, rather than the longer single player games with style and originality.


people pay money that they are asked to because people have no will power. nintendo could still have made money with the console way cheaper, but people are paying the higher price. its like people WILL buy the 8800ultra for no reason and no benefit over the £200 cheaper version, people could refuse to buy it and nvidia would drop price to sell it. but people simply pay what they are asked and don't fight back anymore.
 
drunkenmaster said:
quite frankly *** Wii's numbers are artificial at best.
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Haha, I love this argument.

PEOPLE BUYING THE WII DON'T COUNT BECAUSE THEY HAVE DIFFERENT TASTES TO ME SO IT'S NOT REALLY SELLING AS MUCH AS IT SEEMS LALALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING
 
There is so much wrong with that, i just don't know where to start. Right... hmmm.


drunkenmaster said:
quite frankly *** Wii's numbers are artificial at best. the 360 and PS3 , well 95% of owners buy it for the games, and will buy a certain percentage of the big releases. so dev's can know if they make a game for the 360, if its an AAA title and they can guess they'll sell 20%.
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Not at all true. The PS2 has sold over 115 million console and the best selling games GTA:VC and GTA:SA sold 13m and 12m respectively, about 10% of PS2 owners bought the games. Only 7 games have reached more than 5m sales. It is utter rubbish that a AAA titles will sell anywhere near 20%. The attach rate of the PS2 is between 9 and 10 (Xbox and GC were between 8 and 9), even though it was the must have console of last generation. A AAA titles does not guarantee high sales. Tony Hawks Pro Skater sold more than Res Evil 4!!
I'd be willing to bet that the attach rate on the Wii will be fairly close to that of the PS2.
If people spend £180 on a console, you will bet that they will buy more than just 2-3 games. Even if those games are Wii Sport, Wii Sports 2, Wii Sports 3, Mario Party 8, Mario Party 9 and Dance Dance Whatever.... etc. etc. You would be surprised at how quickly word gets around about new games for the must have console.





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people are talking about all the dev's jumping ship to make games, but are they making a Wii exclusive Crysis game(as in AAA title, thats gonna most likely be fantastic and not have much else comparable to it), or are they all just porting over games in, probably not as badly as Spidey 3 has been done. but are they just looking for a cheap buck, they make games optimized for a very similar amount of graphical power available on ps3/360, then make a port and just turn a bunch of stuff off/down so it plays on the Wii. out of all those games coming out this year for the Wii, a huge number are games aimed at very young kids, and are basic and i don't want to be mean, but no where near the level of game you get on 360/ps3 in general.
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Yes, there are lots of Devs making Wii exclusives and more and morea are announced every week. I will bet you that in 2008, the Wii has more exclusives in development than any console. Any company spending 20m to produce a game for the 360 will not keep it console exclusive unless they get a big payoff from MS. It is just too easy to cash in on PS3 and PC ports.
Devs have been lazy so far, but lots of games have been rushed out to try and cash in early whilst the exclusives are being developed. It is much cheaper to develop a AAA title for the Wii than the 360. That alone will pretty much guarantee more exclusives.
As for being aimed at very young kids, you are seriously deluded. Of the list posted, about 7/8 are aimed specifically at kids and most of those are movie tie-ins that have been done on every console.
In one section of that list, in succession we have:
Manhunt 2
Alien Syndrome
Scarface
Res Evil 4
Brothers in Arms
Battalion Wars 2
Metroid Prime 3

Clearly all aimed at very young kids... :rolleyes:




drunkenmaster said:
overhyped, lack of games, lack of power, overpriced novelty. the control method can and should be released on other consoles or the PC. theres nothing technologically innovated, gyration mice have been out for YEARS on pc's, just not used effectively. lightguns for over a decade, maybe two, are also a wireless device used to simulate real life usage. i'm just utterly shocked pc, ps2, ps1, gamecube, xbox, 360 hasn't done it before. theres nothing difficult about it.
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Overhyped i agree with. Lack of games i agree with, though no more than with the PS3, infact the situation looks better for the Wii than the PS3 for this year at least. Lack of power is totally subjective, it has all the power that I or 99% of the game buying public need from it. Overpriced i agree, i wanted it out sub £150 but we are in the minority as 6.5m people have already bought one. Novelty i disagree with. Both The Godfather and Madden show how the controllers can really improve a game if done well. Actually there is lots technologically innovative. They are the first controller of their kind. No other controller has had a built in speaker, no console has been released with a dual controller that allows total freedom of both hands and no controller has had an infra-red camera coupled with 3-axis gyros/accelerometers to give almost infinite input options. Oh, lightguns are an inherently different technology to what the Wii-mote uses... but i am sure you knew that.



As for where is the hack and slash game.... well if you want to do it properly, it will take time. I would rather something like that come out in 2008 and be phenomenal. Either way, i'll be perfectly happy buying myself a Wii for Galaxy, Metroid Prime, No More Heroes, Project Z and NiGHTS.
You can enjoy whatever console you have and be safe in the knowledge that you are having a superior gaming experience......
 
well you can disagree and fail to understand what i said. just because nintendo released it £29 more than they said they would, i wasn't aware of that, but i'm not talking about the £29, i'm talking about the fact that its very very old tech, it should probably be £100 if that.

i haven't found anything innovative as such on the Wii, of the games i've tried the control doesn't ADD to the game, it simply REPLACES gameplay. lots of people love Wii sports, but for the tennis they've removed any basic control of the players, they will just get to the ball, you can constantly swing and will still hit the ball. other than swinging your arm theres nothing to the game and all the Wii sports games feel like that. personally i think it would be innovative to ADD to games with control, make a great tennis game, then increase functionality with the new control method, not make the game soooo simple its just boring.

as for my incomprehensible paragraph, well, most developers will decide to make an exclusive game based on sales numbers. for instance if 10% of people on a given console would buy a triple A title, then on the xbox360 right now that should mean a million sales, on the ps3 300k sales, on the Wii, you'd maybe think 600k games. but theres more to consider, as i've said, a LOT of not normal people have bought the Wii, older people who use it as a dinner party once a week toy who will never buy more games and a lot of whom are already getting bored of it. a lot of people are buying it expecting lots of great titles to be available and they aren't, basically its not just normal gamers buying it , and this will affect which games are made specifically for it. lots of people are talking about developers jumping over themselves to make Wii games, but we don't know what kind of games. wario smooth moves stupidly cheap games to make a quick buck while the goings good but basically a crap game? or are they just porting games over like COD3, so playing a game in far worse quality than you can on other systems? or are they making Wii exclusive titles that will REALLY make use of the control? well i've seen little evidence of the later type of game being made. super mario galaxy, thats what i was thinking of before, i would LOVE to play as i LOVED super mario world. but from what i can see those types of what i feel are "proper" games. i put those games in a different class/level as i think of say virtua fighter which is mainly a multiplayer pick them up then forget about them games.
 
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