Insane Watercooling Queries

Why not just put the rad in the fish tank in a closed loop? No filters no need to worry about the poor fishies or bacteria in your loop. The rad will be cooled by the surrounding water very efficiently.
 
This is a bloody idiotic idea full stop!!! Goldfish do not like high temperatures. 30 degrees will kill them, and they prefer around the 15 degree mark. Tropicals need around 24-26 degrees, unless you have the likes of Discus when it's up to 30 degrees. They are over £25 each so i doubt very much if you would use them and in any case with what you are proposing they will be dead in a week. If you go ahead with this then the fish will be subjected to varying temperatures, which will kill them, not to mention metal poisoning which will also eventually kill them. Fish need specific water conditions to survive such as the correct balances of GH, KH, PH, Low, preferably zero levels of Nitrite, Nitrate, Phosphate and Ammonia all of which are by products of the nitrogen cycle as a result of fish waste and waste food. You will still have to use tap water with a dechlorinator and do 25% weekly water changes. You cannot use deionised water as it is effectively "dead water" and has no minerals in it. I know about fish as i have four tanks of them!!

Forget about it. It would be inhumane.
 
Sticking them in a glass take alone is inhumane anyway let alone water cooling ya pc with them
 
Zefan said:
Sorry a bit off topic, but I love your name.
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Erm...cheers i think? Thing is though can ya say it properly?? I found no one can, not even the bird in the bank that i kinda date. It's my nickname anyway but pretty much all call me it. D, Draz or Drazic just some of them...
 
Most tropical fish these days are captive bred for the trade and not taken from the wild. I myself have two 48"x24"x24" 200ltr tanks, one Trigon 190ltr corner tank, a 36"x18"x20" 120ltr tank and a 24"x18"x18" breeding tank. I do 25% water changes weekly along with gravel and filter maintenance/cleaning. They have loads of plants and caves and only get the best foods available. They eat better than me! They have a mix of 5 different foods a day so they never get bored of what they eat. You are wrong if you think fishkeeping is inhumane. If they were unhappy then i would'nt keep getting several batches of fry.

No fish keeping is fine if done properly. What he is proposing is inhumane.
 
MikeTimbers said:
Why not just put the rad in the fish tank in a closed loop? No filters no need to worry about the poor fishies or bacteria in your loop. The rad will be cooled by the surrounding water very efficiently.
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Best way so far.
 
putting them in a closed loop or 2 chambers kinda remove the challenge of it all (may aswell just have a fish tank suspended in the middlle of/in front of a transparent case).
As for the endless drivvel about it being "inhumane", i havent actually done it, i was looking at the logistics (sp?) of doing it and whether it would be feasible. This is a forum for discussing how technically possible things are, not the moral implications.

What annoys me about the responces in this thread are the people who dont even read the posts before theirs subsequently posting things that have already been answered, but what can you do.

Answering a couple more new questions, i would like to clarify i was not going to use tropical fish.

pastymuncher said:
This is a bloody idiotic idea full stop!!! Goldfish do not like high temperatures. 30 degrees will kill them, and they prefer around the 15 degree mark.
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Hence the second radiator to cool the water as it leaves the loop, as said above
If you go ahead with this then the fish will be subjected to varying temperatures, which will kill them,
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See above, the tank temperature will be regulated

not to mention metal poisoning which will also eventually kill them.
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There are filters to remove the metals from the water, as said above

Fish need specific water conditions to survive such as the correct balances of GH, KH, PH, Low, preferably zero levels of Nitrite, Nitrate, Phosphate and Ammonia all of which are by products of the nitrogen cycle as a result of fish waste and waste food.
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Good point i didnt think of, but i was talking to a guy in a pet store and was told you could get chemicals to keep the balance right.

Forget about it. It would be inhumane.
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No more inhumane than keeping 4 tanks a fish if i get it right, far as the fish are concerned it is no different from keeping a fish in a bowl.

robmac said:
just stick to having a couple of goldfish, they will probably die anyway!!
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I own 10 already, been 4 years and they arent dead yet ;)
Not that it is relevant

But you will be glad to know i am not going to persue this project, not matter how interesting it is as the cost to do it properly is in excess of £500 in terms of filters, purifiers, etc etc.
Little bit too much for a side project :)
 
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this is kinda off -topic but i couldnt be assed to make a whole topic about it,
its fridge related (i can feel u all saying OMG now)
ok say you already had water cooling installed right, if u cut holes the same thickness as the pipe into both sides of the fridge and then bypassed the piping into the fridge before itwent to the cpu as it would not be that hot would it cool the water giving u a temp boost, or would the water eventually build up in heat and overpower the fridge?
 
Eliot said:
this is kinda off -topic but i couldnt be assed to make a whole topic about it,
its fridge related (i can feel u all saying OMG now)
ok say you already had water cooling installed right, if u cut holes the same thickness as the pipe into both sides of the fridge and then bypassed the piping into the fridge before itwent to the cpu as it would not be that hot would it cool the water giving u a temp boost, or would the water eventually build up in heat and overpower the fridge?
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It would ruin the fridge. A fridge isnt powerfull enough to cool water at all in that length of time.
 
Eliot said:
this is kinda off -topic but i couldnt be assed to make a whole topic about it,
its fridge related (i can feel u all saying OMG now)
ok say you already had water cooling installed right, if u cut holes the same thickness as the pipe into both sides of the fridge and then bypassed the piping into the fridge before itwent to the cpu as it would not be that hot would it cool the water giving u a temp boost, or would the water eventually build up in heat and overpower the fridge?
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This has suggested so many times.

Fridges cant take a lot of heat the compressor would burn out before the end of a day with the heat that a computer kicks out. Remeber they say dont even put hot/warm food in a fridge let alone water peipe fresh from a cpu block.

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Damn too slow :p
 
Chronictank said:
Good point i didnt think of, but i was talking to a guy in a pet store and was told you could get chemicals to keep the balance right.
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This is adding chemicals to the water.. wont the chemicals go inside the loop and possibly damage the loop in some way... or am i being silly? sounds logical though
 
Townlea said:
This is adding chemicals to the water.. wont the chemicals go inside the loop and possibly damage the loop in some way... or am i being silly? sounds logical though
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far as i understand it, the filters will remove all the fishy goodness they need, as a result because the water is "pure" the fish will eventually die.
The chemicals put that back into the water, making the design very expensive to maintain as you would have to add chemicals every week to keep the balance right.
 
The chemicals for ph adjustments and dechlorinators are very cheap.

The chemicals shouldnt affect the loop, the concentrations are very low afterall and when the copper starts to form a layer of copper oxide the chemicals wont be able to get to it.
 
sagaboy2 said:
This has suggested so many times.

Fridges cant take a lot of heat the compressor would burn out before the end of a day with the heat that a computer kicks out. Remeber they say dont even put hot/warm food in a fridge let alone water peipe fresh from a cpu block.

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Damn too slow :p
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ye but i thought that as the water wasnt hot it would have trouble.
 
lol, this is getting rather scientific... :)

By the sounds of it there is going to be so many filters that no water will be able to pass through them all :rolleyes:
 
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