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Intel Broadwell

JJimmyJ

JJimmyJ

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Hello

I'm desperate to do a long overdue upgrade, but the waters are murky.
Looking at Broadwell, it looks like it may be delayed to the 4th quarter now. I don't think I can wait that long.
Does anyone know what Broadwell would offer? I know it's smaller, which makes me think it'll be harder to clock as it'll be harder to cool. It 'will' offer DDR4 support, but I'm guessing that'll be expensive for the first year at least. Is there any point waiting?
I mainly game, but want a bit of future proofing (almost impossible).
Shopping around, is an i7 2600k or i7 3770k still worth it? The 2600k can generally overclock higher, easier to cool etc. The 3770k aren't that old and can run cooler than the new 4770k's. There's not much between them in benchmarks etc.
Any thoughts?
 
You can easily be future proof with a decent motherboard, 4770k and a 780/290x.
Right now you can play most of the games with gtx 670/r9 280x.
Not so long ago I had a gtx 660ti and it was still running all my games.
You can build a future proof pc for around 1000£.
 
Buy the best you can afford for now and im sure it will last you a long time. As for the 2600k or 3770k unless you get them at a good price then it would the latest tech would be my choice.
 
Hmmmm, ok. So, forget Broadwell.
I can afford to do a decent upgrade, but I'm a miser and like to get the most out of my cash :)
I can sell my current CPU, MB and RAM. The I7 4770k is obviously new tech, but if there's no intention of upgrading to Broadwell then essentially 1150 is a dead socket anyway? Which brings me back to the 2600k and the 3770k.
Would they still be viable at a decent price? Pair them up with some of the Teamgroup 2133 ram and maybe get a 7950 for x-fire (when mining runs it's course). My thinking is that would probably do me for a good 4/5 years the way desktop chips are going.
I'm also half tempted by an FX8320 just for the fun of overclocking it, although I don't want to start a debate on that:)
 
is there any possibility that broadwell might have a 6 core cpu in the £250 price bracket? then it might be worth it as games are starting to get more threaded!
 
jamiehavok said:
is there any possibility that broadwell might have a 6 core cpu in the £250 price bracket? then it might be worth it as games are starting to get more threaded!
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Are we talking about Intel CPU? :)
Since when brand new product from Intel, one that is supposed to be superior to Haswell, is going to cost the same?
If Intel makes 6/12 Broadwell, it will be closer to 400£ on release, if not more (will have to be in same pricing as Ivy-e 6/12).
 
Depends on pricees really, if you can get them a lot cheaper then go for an older one, if not go 4770k, you still get the fun of overclocking!
 
jamiehavok said:
is there any possibility that broadwell might have a 6 core cpu in the £250 price bracket? then it might be worth it as games are starting to get more threaded!
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That would be go up against their E cpu's so I don't see that happening :(

A 4770k if buying new, 3770k/2600k/2700k if buying second hand and if they are substantially cheaper.
 
Bart_Hunt said:
You can easily be future proof with a decent motherboard, 4770k and a 780/290x.
Right now you can play most of the games with gtx 670/r9 280x.
Not so long ago I had a gtx 660ti and it was still running all my games.
You can build a future proof pc for around 1000£.
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I don't think you can call that system that futureproof.

Reason being that during this year, Intel is due to release mainstream 8 core/16thread cpu's.

As more and more game engines are infact being multi-threaded well, an 8core/16thread will have significantly more performance than a 4770k, due to double the cache, double the cores, double the threads etc.

To the OP, I'd really recommending waiting as long as you can, for an 8core/16thread affordable intel cpu. You're going to get a lot of angry people who recently bought a 4770K come here and defend their purchase, but that's my recommendation.
 
Dave2150 said:
I don't think you can call that system that futureproof.

Reason being that during this year, Intel is due to release mainstream 8 core/16thread cpu's.

As more and more game engines are infact being multi-threaded well, an 8core/16thread will have significantly more performance than a 4770k, due to double the cache, double the cores, double the threads etc.

To the OP, I'd really recommending waiting as long as you can, for an 8core/16thread affordable intel cpu. You're going to get a lot of angry people who recently bought a 4770K come here and defend their purchase, but that's my recommendation.
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The haswell 8 core cpu is Enthusiast not mainstream and its price will reflect this. The 4 core/8 thread i7 will not get left behind anytime soon.

OP if you wait for
an 8core/16thread affordable intel cpu
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you will be buying the computer for your grandkids.
 
Techpowerup said:
Intel is planning to launch its 4th generation Core i7 HEDT (high-end desktop) platform, codenamed "Haswell-E," in the third quarter of 2014 (after June), which should space its launch roughly a year from Core i7 "Ivy Bridge-E." With Haswell-E, Intel is expected to increase core counts across the board, launching an "affordable" six-core part around the $400 mark, an eight-core part around the $600 mark, and an Extreme Edition eight-core part around the $1,000 mark.
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http://www.techpowerup.com/196158/intel-core-i7-haswell-e-to-launch-in-q3-2014.html

So Six core/12threads for $400, and 8core/16threads for $1000, this year.

The Sixcore would be affordable for those wanting to future proof far beyond the 4770K currently available.

Also, it's quite likely that a few months later there will be a 8 core mainstread (non enthusiast) CPU released by intel also.

What I'm saying is, in my opinion, buying a 4770k now is not 'futureproofing' as much as buying one of the original I7 4core/8thread cpu's that released in 2008 was.

Of course if you have to buy now, the 4770k is a good choice, though if you can wait, there are much more powerful intel CPU's around the corner.
 
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