Intel Core i9-12900K allegedly scores 30K points in Cinebench R23

[Dave2150]

Source: https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i9-12900k-allegedly-scores-30k-points-in-cinebench-r23

Intel back on top, again with an inferior 10nm (Intel "7") process. Will be fun once Intel's fab's eventually match or exceed TSMC, which won't be that long away most likely.

 

[Dave2150]

Further news - crazy single core performance also, expanding Intel's out of the box performance lead in Cinebench R23.

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-c...g-4-spotted-2k-points-in-cinebench-r23-teased

It's rather interesting to observe how AMD fans no longer care about cinebench scores, when previously (when Ryzen was chart topping cinebench) it was one of the most important metrics.

 

[Dave2150]

Intel Core i9-12900K allegedly scores 27% higher than Ryzen 9 5950X in CPU-Z single-thread benchmark

Impressive.

Looking forward to gaming benchmarks, be interesting to see how DDR5 affects things.

 

[Dave2150]

Yeah it’s got it all. I think it’s going to have a lot of issues early on though. I mean most of what we are seeing in benchmarks, could be down to DDR5, which doesn’t make the chip alone look all that great. Then factor in the latency etc, and well a wise man or woman would wait. I think Zen 4 is going to be very interesting to compare to Alder Lake instead of Alder Lake and Zen 3. Pcie5 interests me the least out of the above.

Raptor lake will launch next year, and will up the core count, frequency and IPC over Alderlake - that may be the one to get for most, to avoid the early adopter price premiems of DDR5 etc. Plus by the launch of Raptor Lake (rumoured Q2-Q2 22) windows 11's hardware scheduler should have had any bugs fixed and general performance improvements.

Raptor lake should be competing against Zen3 refresh (assuming Zen3 refresh isn't further delayed) - should be an interesting duel

 

[Dave2150]

Core counts are going to get silly.

AMD played the core count game which killed Intel's HEDT, now Intel are looking to play AMD at their own game, revenge? Bad move, its far too easy for AMD to ramp the core count up to play them at that game, all Intel are doing is escalating it.

Zen 4

R3 - 6/12
R5 - 8/16
R7 - 12/24 and 16/32
R9 - 20/40 and 24/48

Single thread performance will be AMD's biggest worry. They've used up Jim Keller's work, so may not be able to increase IPC greatly going forward.

At stock, rocket lake (11900k) has higher single core performance out of the box than a 5950x has. Alder Lake looks to increase this by 15-20%. Then next year we have Raptor Lake, with further IPC increases, which will compete with Zen3 refresh. At this point, it may be Meteor Lake that finally competes with Zen4 and AMD's first DDR5 platform.

That said, I do hope AMD can keep executing as we could have a few really exciting years with big increases in performance from both vendors then

 

[Dave2150]

Further confirmation of very high single core performance, this time from the i7-12700k: https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i7-12700k-crosses-800-points-in-cpu-z-benchmark

I wonder if Raptor lake will be between 900-1000 points! Exciting times

 

[Dave2150]

I think the best would be if the game developers begin to do this:
- optimise for 12-core CPU for top ultra-high settings;
- optimise for 8-core for high settings;
- optimise for 6-core for medium settings;
- optimise for 4-core for low-medium settings;

Hopefully you understand how it can work.

GPU's aren't fast enough to need anything beyond a 10th gen/Zen3 8 core CPU for now for gaming.