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Intel delays new 45nm processors

But why on earth should Intel drop the prices of the Q6600's when there is no competition and available stocks are only going to get lower (that is if production ends). The laws of supply and demand strike again with one supplier gripping hold of consumers.
 
Schnippzle said:
But why on earth should Intel drop the prices of the Q6600's when there is no competition
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Because not as many people bought into the hype as INTEL would have liked so one tactic to stimulate sales is to do a *MASSIVE* price slash. People first saw these chips at about £500 and started eating the hype and beginning to ache for one (the seed is planted). Anybody that ate the hype had no chance to resist once the price slash began because in their mind the chip was valued at £500. . . . "What a £500 pound object of my dreams selling for just £350 now!" kerching but some strong people held out and INTEL cut the prices again.

I am fanatical about PC hardware as much as the next guy (one except a few regulars lol!) but If I think a hardware manufacturer is having a laugh the only thing I can do to tell them **** off thats a **** idea is not to buy there product, just takes enough people thinking like that to hurt sales and I'm sure the big guys notice.

I have a lot of respect for INTEL but they do make mistakes and I think the massive hype on quad core is a mistake, I would have prefered a dual core running at 5000MHz actually! :o

In short I personally don't think that the Quad Cores live up to their hype for the average user.
 
Schnippzle said:
But why on earth should Intel drop the prices of the Q6600's when there is no competition
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Ok now a different approach. . .

INTEL are putting the hurt on AMD at the moment, they have a better product and they can produce gazillions of them, unless AMD pull out a special move all its gonna take is INTEL to reduce the prices a bit more and the green machine is out if business!

Real 'backs to the wall' time atm for AMD! :eek:
 
disapointing can only hope its untrue.... wouldnt 45mm mean its cheaper to build and produce? otherwise ive never seen a company say no to profit and more money ?
 
From what i know it's logical that the 45nm version should cost less but that depends from the die size itself. Might be wrong here but when u scale the architecture from 65 to 45nm then you should be able to get more cores from the waffer which means lower prices for the company to create.
You have to take into consideration that more L2 cache is added that bushes the price a bit up aswell.
 
Surely penryn should be cheaper to produce and hence more profit.

Any delay would be either to clear inventories or due to some technical issue
 
theforce said:
From what i know it's logical that the 45nm version should cost less but that depends from the die size itself. Might be wrong here but when u scale the architecture from 65 to 45nm then you should be able to get more cores from the waffer which means lower prices for the company to create.
You have to take into consideration that more L2 cache is added that bushes the price a bit up aswell.
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yes, but you must also take into account that all of intels Fabs must be upgraded for 45nm production. this is a $500 million PER-FAB cost that adds to the price of the processors significantly, as well as development costs. these chips aren't exactly simple to design.
 
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Delay isnt such a bad thing, the 65nm processors are still the fastest available X64 microprocessors you can buy, and it will allow intel to stockpile the 45nm processors so that when they do finally launch there should be no problems with supply V demand driving the prices up.

Another good thing about a delay on Penryn, the 'announced' prices for Penryn are a little high, ok not bad, but the 2.66Ghz Penryn is currently listed as $530 (around £300). However if AMD's Phenom 2.6Ghz gets released at a lower price, it could encorage intel to drop down to the next price level. Would be great to see 2.66 Penryn Quads for £150 eh? :)) Need a strong (or desparate) AMD to ensure that.
 
Aod said:
yes, but you must also take into account that all of intels Fabs must be upgraded for 45nm production. this is a $500 million PER-FAB cost that adds to the price of the processors significantly, as well as development costs. these chips aren't exactly simple to design.
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Aparently Intel are planning on building 3 new fabs which will all be equipped for 45nm. This is no doubt in addition to the conversion of some of its existing fabs to the new process.

Core 2 Duo has been the best 'value' performance chip from intel for many many years, at the end of the day its us who pay for the chip development, and it doesnt come cheap. Profits / chip are way down due to the price wars with AMD.
 
Corasik said:
if AMD's Phenom 2.6Ghz gets released at a lower price, it could encorage intel to drop down to the next price level
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I don't think AMD wants to get into a price war again with INTEL, I mean INTEL has got such huge resources they can pump out gazillions of chips from all their fabs.

I think AMD really want to take back the performance crown, they got a taste of being the top dog with their Athlon64 series, I remember how the FX-60 was the most coverted enthusiast processor in the world and having followed AMDs chips since they were launched that was a nice thing to see!

At the same time I didn't enjoy seeing INTEL get a good slapping but truth be told they had become a bit big for their boots so it brought them back down to earth and got them producing even better products, as we have seen this past year with nVidia 8800 series, lack of competition really makes the market place stagnant.
 
Athlon64 was a fantastic processor, and it really crushed P4 in terms of features and performance, and of course it helped that P4 was rubbish from the start, The early P4's were a considerable 'downgrade' compared to high end P3's.

AMD got a lucky break, and a taste of holding the performance crown. But will they get it back... Who knows, but Phenom isnt looking great. AMD really needed a chip which was faster than Core 2 "clock for clock". Phenom only matches performance, and when ramping up the clocks it seems to make Prescott look 'good' in power usage!

Sure it may improve when AMD get a 45nm process, but Intel will release their improve Core 2 processor Q1 2008, and thats the chip that Phenom will have to compete with. By the end of 2008 intel will release its next architecture, Intel lost quite a bit of respect during the P4 era, and it seems the top dogs at intel want to ensure they have world beating performance for the forseeable future.
 
Damn, thats bad news for me - I was holding out for one of these new chips as I desperately need to build a new pc.

The 3200+ overclocked barton and X800 XT PE has met the end of its useful life :D
 
Adam_D200 said:
Damn, thats bad news for me - I was holding out for one of these new chips as I desperately need to build a new pc.

The 3200+ overclocked barton and X800 XT PE has met the end of its useful life :D
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me 2, but im on a 4000+ with a 7900gtx. im still gonna wait for penryn though
 
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