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Intel Discrete GPU Codenamed Arctic Sound Will Have Gaming Variant, Landing in 2020
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For that to work they need a design license similar to what Apple has with ARM but let's not kid ourselves Intel will want to use the technology to stunt Nvidia's surge dead in it's track so I don't expect it to help gamers out to break the status quo.
Intel's existing team is strangled by resources. Take their latest GPUs - they renamed the HD530 to the HD630 and then the UHD 630. Intel traditionally haven't spent enough money on the teams. If they funded it properly they might get somewhere without new mystic competitor tech.
Ehhh?
The customer might have rights to any special designs they paid AMDs custom department to make, (intel, consoles) for but I'd doubt AMD would hand over major IP for their latest graphic tech to an obvious potential competitor.
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Not if it is licensed.
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Zen has been licensed as part of a JV in China:
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Hygon-Dhyana-AMD-China-CPUs
https://www.reddit.com/r/AMD_Stock/comments/8q66hi/some_details_about_the_amd_thatic_jv/
OFC,I said its a slim chance,but its not beyond the realms of possibility either.
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That says Zen has been licenced to a chinese company 51% owned by AMD.
Its job is to make and sell Zen chips to another chinese company which is 30% owned by AMD.
Ok. Technically AMD has given a different company a licence. But it's a company that AMD appears to be using as a puppet...
Its job is to make and sell Zen chips to another chinese company which is 30% owned by AMD.
Ok. Technically AMD has given a different company a licence. But it's a company that AMD appears to be using as a puppet...
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Its only because AMD has to own part of it, as per the X86 license otherwise Intel can revoke it.As time and time progresses there will be more Chinese involvement if you look at what they are trying to do longterm,and it also means competition for AMD branded CPUs(AMD probably will make less money from the JV per CPU than selling a finished one,but might be able to sell more). Both ARM and IBM license their designs,and in the case of the latter,they actually still sell CPUs.
Like I said its a slim chance it could happen with Intel on graphics,but then nobody expected AMD to sell Intel a GPU either. This technically also competes with AMD SKUs too.
The fact is IF Intel says they have a new GPU by 2020,I can't see it being a project started by Raja Koduri after he joined them - that would be a barely 2 years to go from no GPU to one that can be sold at retail with the software stack in place.
This would indicate a project which has started earlier. So this is wny I wonder whether AMD has had a hand in this? License certain aspects of their uarch,and Intel implements a core based on it,and AMD gets royalties.
Intel has had an active GPU department for a long time, so it is not completely new. This new Intel discrete GPU appears to be a spin-off of some HPC product that has many GPU similarities, in the similar but opposite way Nvidia can sell GPUs designed for gaming into the HPC market. This is really Larrabee version 2. It then remains open how much Koduri will actually contribute to a product released in 2020, or if the 2020 timeline is even realistic or what it means. Perhaps some prototype engineering samples in 2020 but without exception of a consumer product until 2021/2022.
That doesn't ,ean there can't licensing of some IP from AMD or Nvidia, in fact it probably has to happen to some extent. But licening limited IP is very different to getting anything close to a GPU architecture
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Arctic is probably the least offensive name for a chip Intel have used for a while. I mean take 'coffee lake' to me thats a pretty daft name to give to a design. It's almost as if someone didn't care or named from the first thing that came into thier head.
The names aren't chosen at random - they are based on places often island or historic cities, etc. usually a lesser known reference or a reworked/shortened version of the name. Often they are geographically related to the facility behind development of a specific product but not always.
Arctic Sound for instance the Sound is a nautical context like a strait.
Arctic Sound for instance the Sound is a nautical context like a strait.
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That's not how it works.
Sure anyone can sue but they can also have it thrown out because there's nothing there. Intel won't be scared by fake claims.
It sticks when someone is actually treading on someone elses patent. For example the minefield of patents related to graphics technology that Nvidia and AMD have in their name. They only exist to cripple competitors trying to do the same things.
wouldn't be the first time though. They have done in the past although to much smaller companies of course.
The marketing floppers? Ha, good riddance!
Yer, better AMD get rid of those guys and save some money lol
I do seem to remember the red team singing Raja's praises when he started out, now he and seemingly the team under him are the ones your glad to be rid of.
Well let's just hope that whoever it is filling their shoes doesn't make a big hash of the new 7nm stuff.
Well let's just hope that whoever it is filling their shoes doesn't make a big hash of the new 7nm stuff.