Intel e5200 Overclocking

Prob because people test chips with intel burn test now, i could run orthos for days on a rig that ibt would fail all tests.

And most people run on air.
 
easyrider said:
Why are people running these things so slow?

I ran my 6400 @ 3.8ghz

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Troll!! :p

Just read the other threads that you posted the same thing in. If you think you can do better then get one yourself. ;)
 
Originally Posted by easyrider View Post
I'm tempted...over on XS they seem to be getting 4ghz. Was just wondering that all... Bad batch?

Can you lend me yours?
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krooton said:
In P45 mobos, I've only a lowly P35 :(
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Perhaps cos I've only got a P965 can't say I'm overly impressed. Will only do 3GHz on stock volts (VID=1.225) and currently 3.5GHz (350x10) at Intels recommended max (1.36v in CPU-Z, 1.4v in bios). RAM 1:1 on tighter timings seems a little better than running faster with relaxed timings.
 
Mrjobby said:
Prob because people test chips with intel burn test now, i could run orthos for days on a rig that ibt would fail all tests.

And most people run on air.
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It's a fair enough question from easyrider but I have to agree with Mrjobby's reply, as much a fan of Prime95 I am the simple fact is IBT heats up a processor several degrees more than Prime ever could!

3800MHz @ 64°C = Pass!
3800MHz @ 70°C = Fail!

So an overclocked chip that was Prime stable but not IBT stable could still run for days and days rock solid until the point the thermal spec is exceed and . . .fail!

Luckily for people owning custom water cooling systems this point isn't as relevant as they don't have to worry about temps as much as the humble air cooling person however if the water cooled system continue to have it's vCore pumped it too will become unstable! (i.e an uber water cooled system can only only disapate so much heat, as the vCore goes up so does the waste heat etc etc)

I have no science training and therefore don't know how to explain this phenomena but It's real and is the enemy of everyone who overclocks!

Thing is, the whole argument is almost m00t as 97.6% of the population will never be able to perform real world tasks that can load up the CPU as much as the engineers tool IBT.

Prime95 is still very relevant and is less an engineers tool and more a real-world users stress test as games and stuff if multithreaded can load up a CPU about as much as prime!
 
Big.Wayne said:
It's a fair enough question from easyrider but I have to agree with Mrjobby's reply, as much a fan of Prime95 I am the simple fact is IBT heats up a processor several degrees more than Prime ever could!

3800MHz @ 64°C = Pass!
3800MHz @ 70°C = Fail!

So an overclocked chip that was Prime stable but not IBT stable could still run for days and days rock solid until the point the thermal spec is exceed and . . .fail!

Luckily for people owning custom water cooling systems this point isn't as relevant as they don't have to worry about temps as much as the humble air cooling person however if the water cooled system continue to have it's vCore pumped it too will become unstable! (i.e an uber water cooled system can only only disapate so much heat, as the vCore goes up so does the waste heat etc etc)

I have no science training and therefore don't know how to explain this phenomena but It's real and is the enemy of everyone who overclocks!

Thing is, the whole argument is almost m00t as 97.6% of the population will never be able to perform real world tasks that can load up the CPU as much as the engineers tool IBT.

Prime95 is still very relevant and is less an engineers tool and more a real-world users stress test as games and stuff if multithreaded can load up a CPU about as much as prime!
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When i did my review of my E5200 i had it in my main rig under water and still could'nt get stable at 3.8Ghz. I could boot into windows at 4Ghz and even run some benchies but it was no where near stable. I still use Prime as well so it has nothing to do with temps in my case. The most i can get stable is 3.7Ghz (12.5x296) under a AC Freezer 7 Pro. It will not do it with a lower multiplier/higher fsb. It's in my second rig now and i have really had a go at it this weekend. Even that took a big increase in voltage to 1.425v which i really am not comfortable with so it's back to 3.6Ghz now.
 
ASUS P5Q-EM
INTEL E5200
CRUCIAL Anniversary Edition PC2-5300
XIGMATEK HDT1283
SHARKOON SE Blue 2000
ANTEC Earthwatts 380

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Would have loved to post a higher stable clock but that's about the best I can get using reasonable volts on air-cooling. Just got a new mobo and am still getting my head around some BIOS options so maybe there is something I have missed!

I've got another two E5200 samples to test so hoping I got one that can squeeze out a few extra hundred MHz!

I have only made a few adjustments using Memset so there may well be something holding me back? most of the more advanced memory settings are on *auto* :o

Wouldn't mind seeing a few more stability shots in this thread pls :D

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I'm tempted to pick one of these up to replace my e4300, as it uses a little less power... Is there a certain stepping which is best like with the E0's of the e8x00 family?

I'm happy with 3GHz, I just want to run it passive! :cool:
 
MikeHunt79 said:
I'm tempted to pick one of these up to replace my e4300, as it uses a little less power... Is there a certain stepping which is best like with the E0's of the e8x00 family?

I'm happy with 3GHz, I just want to run it passive! :cool:
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There are better batches than others as Big.Wayne has one that likes a higher fsb than mine. For a comparison to a E4300 see my attempt at a review.
 
pastymuncher said:
There are better batches than others as Big.Wayne has one that likes a higher fsb than mine. For a comparison to a E4300 see my attempt at a review.
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Cheers... Nice review. I'm not too worried about if I can get it to 4GHz, but I'd like one with a low VID as I like my cpu fan to spin as slowly as possible. :)
 
MikeHunt79 said:
Is there a certain stepping which is best like with the E0's of the e8x00 family?
I'd like one with a low VID as I like my cpu fan to spin as slowly as possible
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Tested
Batch # Q743B209
Pack Date 08/14/08
Malaysia

Waiting for testing
Batch # 3825A671
Pack Date 08/01/08
Costa Rica

I wonder . . . could the Costa Rica chips be uBer or bOOber! :D

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I'll get one installed tomorrow hopefully . . .Guy Fawks night! . . . bodes well for big overclocks! :o
 
Big.Wayne said:
Tested
Batch # Q743B209
Pack Date 08/14/08
Malaysia

Waiting for testing
Batch # 3825A671
Pack Date 08/01/08
Costa Rica

I wonder . . . could the Costa Rica chips be uBer or bOOber! :D

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I'll get one installed tomorrow hopefully . . .Guy Fawks night! . . . bodes well for big overclocks! :o
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We could see big fireworks if your as5 and cooler are not seated correctly :p
 
I have a nOOb proof mounting system now as recommended by professor fornowagain! :p

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and some new thermal paste as endorsed by Ambassador gurusan . . .

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Pity you don't have an E5200 Bruce 'easyrider' Lee ;)

I mean you got a high end water cooling system and a vCore fetish, could be a laugh! :cool:
 
easyrider said:
I read somewhere that a few OEM 5200's were about and they were getting nice clocks.
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I have been checking around the past few days for some bits for a friend and looked at over 20 online retailers and have'nt seen any.

Plenty are selling the new budget Corsair CX400w psu though. £36 for a quality 400w psu is a bargain. Thought OCUK would have had them by now.
 
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