They are probably struggling a bit against the noname brands who are pushing out cheap(ish) 2.5 and 10Gbe hardware now - it ain't pretty but it mostly works.
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Intel has a Pretty Big Problem..
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They are probably struggling a bit against the noname brands who are pushing out cheap(ish) 2.5 and 10Gbe hardware now - it ain't pretty but it mostly works.
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It's standard practice for big corporations to cut sell off under preforming business units. Intel should really focus on turning around it's core business which is it's foundry and semi conductor designs, realistically Intel are the only other company out there that has any chance of offering up any competition to TSMC.
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Intel has just 18 months to 'land a hero customer on 14A' or its cutting-edge fabs are toast, says chip industry analyst
Tick, tock, the clock's a tickin'.
The clock is now ticking!!!
If Intel failed to find a major customer before December 2026 then Intel stock price will probably crash to $1 when Intel will hit with largest net loss in Intel history and largest impairment charge in US history since AOL Time Warner in 2003 saw their $203bn stock market capital crashed down to $20bn.
Nova Lake could be my last Intel CPU if Intel will go bust in 2027 with massive monstrous $100-$150bn debts that will be far exceed AMD $5.282bn debt in 2009. Intel will have no way to pay off debts, hopefully Nvidia will finally have the chance to acquire Intel to get x86 license to make Nvidia x86 CPU and write off Intel massive debts.
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Nvidia are not going to buy Intel to pay off its $150 Billion debt so they can have X86.Intel has just 18 months to 'land a hero customer on 14A' or its cutting-edge fabs are toast, says chip industry analyst
Tick, tock, the clock's a tickin'.www.pcgamer.com
The clock is now ticking!!!
If Intel failed to find a major customer before December 2026 then Intel stock price will probably crash to $1 when Intel will hit with largest net loss in Intel history and largest impairment charge in US history since AOL Time Warner in 2003 saw their $203bn stock market capital crashed down to $20bn.
Nova Lake could be my last Intel CPU if Intel will go bust in 2027 with massive monstrous $100-$150bn debts that will be far exceed AMD $5.282bn debt in 2009. Intel will have no way to pay off debts, hopefully Nvidia will finally have the chance to acquire Intel to get x86 license to make Nvidia x86 CPU and write off Intel massive debts.
If Nvidia want X86 they will wait for Intel to go bust and then buy the X86 IP from a bankruptcy auction, they can get it a lot cheaper that way.
Having said that X86 on its own is obsolete, its used on windows based desktops to support ancient software, its no longer developed for and hasn't been for years, what Windows is running is actually X86_64, the _64 bit is problematic for Nvidia, X86_64 is Intel's i386 and AMD's AMD64 combined, Intel and AMD have a cross licencing agreement, the AMD64 part is 99% of Windows and 100% of datacentre.
If you want Nvidia to make a Desktop gaming CPU X86 is literally useless, an X86 CPU will not even function on a Windows OS newer than Windows Vista, it doesn't work at all in Datacentre, if you want Nvidia to make a desktop gaming CPU that isn't arm and emulating X86_64 like Qualcomm then Nvidia will have to be nice to AMD and AMD don't like Nvidia much, tho money talks and i'm sure if Nvidia throw enough money and cross licensing agreements AMD's way then maybe....
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Intel sure is in trouble. Stock down to less than $20 again and market cap ~ $89Bn. AMD just hit $180 with a market cap of $289Bn. IMHO I just can't see how Intel can recover. The 'catch 22' situation between their FABS and TSMC is the final nail in the coffin.Intel has just 18 months to 'land a hero customer on 14A' or its cutting-edge fabs are toast, says chip industry analyst
Tick, tock, the clock's a tickin'.
The clock is now ticking!!!
If Intel failed to find a major customer before December 2026 then Intel stock price will probably crash to $1 when Intel will hit with largest net loss in Intel history and largest impairment charge in US history since AOL Time Warner in 2003 saw their $203bn stock market capital crashed down to $20bn.
Nova Lake could be my last Intel CPU if Intel will go bust in 2027 with massive monstrous $100-$150bn debts that will be far exceed AMD $5.282bn debt in 2009. Intel will have no way to pay off debts, hopefully Nvidia will finally have the chance to acquire Intel to get x86 license to make Nvidia x86 CPU and write off Intel massive debts.
The x86 market is shrinking and most of that (if not all) appears to belong to Lisa.
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If it should ever happen I don't believe that Intel will be "allowed" to go under. I would think that the US government would either bail them out or force some sort of merger. A one horse race is good for nobody. CPU prices are bad enough now, just think how much AMD will charge if they were the only CPU manufacturer.
One horse race? Only in x86 and 'The mighty Intel' were very very happy for that to happen (even to instigate it).
Intel needs to produce chips and sell them at a profit, can trump help with that?
If AMD wanted to be really cruel they could pull Intel's AMD64 licence and kill them off over night, just as Intel tried to pull X86 from AMD over 20 years ago which actually led to AMD developing its 64Bit IP that is now 100% critical to this industry.
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Some of you may be as old as me and remember that you could get Windows XP in two versions, the Standard "32Bit" version which meant you could only run a maximum of 4GB of ram and even that would only show up as 3.2GB, or you could have "Windows XP 64Bit" that would only run on your name sake @AthlonXP1800 or any variant Athlon XP and you could run as much RAM as you liked.
Being able to run practically infinite RAM was more a by-product of that 64Bit architecture but that and much besides is what made it so successful, AMD was actually late to the 64Bit race that was going on at the time and had been for a few years, Intel for example was already developing Itainium, like all other attempts by the rest of the CPU industry at the time it didn't actually work and they couldn't get it to work.
AMD's version did, it worked really well and it was easily portable from X86, so it was adopted by the industry.
Originally Intel had licenced X86 to AMD because IBM wanted a second source for Intel CPU's, AMD used to make Intel CPU's, why you might ask didn't AMD design and make their own CPU's? eventually they did, AMD's own X86 designs ended up being better than Intel's, AMD started gaining market share, a lot of it, Intel threatened not to renew AMD's X86 licence, as they are entitled to do but that's when AMD entered the 64Bit race and made it so that it was also X86 compatible, Intel tried to get Itainium to work refusing to give up on it but eventually realised that if they didn't adopt AMD64 they would be out of business entirely, so they agreed AMD could keep X86 with Intel getting AMD64 in return.
After that Intel started paying large OEM's not to use AMD CPU's at all, other than creating X86 it was the only other thing that Intel did and was successful in.
Multicore X86 Processors is another thing Intel tried and failed in where AMD succeeded and Intel now licence, your Intel CPU is architecturally an AMD CPU with an Intel logo on it, ironically when you think back to that ^^^.
Being able to run practically infinite RAM was more a by-product of that 64Bit architecture but that and much besides is what made it so successful, AMD was actually late to the 64Bit race that was going on at the time and had been for a few years, Intel for example was already developing Itainium, like all other attempts by the rest of the CPU industry at the time it didn't actually work and they couldn't get it to work.
AMD's version did, it worked really well and it was easily portable from X86, so it was adopted by the industry.
Originally Intel had licenced X86 to AMD because IBM wanted a second source for Intel CPU's, AMD used to make Intel CPU's, why you might ask didn't AMD design and make their own CPU's? eventually they did, AMD's own X86 designs ended up being better than Intel's, AMD started gaining market share, a lot of it, Intel threatened not to renew AMD's X86 licence, as they are entitled to do but that's when AMD entered the 64Bit race and made it so that it was also X86 compatible, Intel tried to get Itainium to work refusing to give up on it but eventually realised that if they didn't adopt AMD64 they would be out of business entirely, so they agreed AMD could keep X86 with Intel getting AMD64 in return.
After that Intel started paying large OEM's not to use AMD CPU's at all, other than creating X86 it was the only other thing that Intel did and was successful in.
Multicore X86 Processors is another thing Intel tried and failed in where AMD succeeded and Intel now licence, your Intel CPU is architecturally an AMD CPU with an Intel logo on it, ironically when you think back to that ^^^.
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AthlonXP was 32 bit, Athlon64 or AthlonX2 were the ones that ran 64 bit XP
Intel has just 18 months to 'land a hero customer on 14A' or its cutting-edge fabs are toast, says chip industry analyst
Tick, tock, the clock's a tickin'.
The clock is now ticking!!!
If Intel failed to find a major customer before December 2026 then Intel stock price will probably crash to $1 when Intel will hit with largest net loss in Intel history and largest impairment charge in US history since AOL Time Warner in 2003 saw their $203bn stock market capital crashed down to $20bn.
Nova Lake could be my last Intel CPU if Intel will go bust in 2027 with massive monstrous $100-$150bn debts that will be far exceed AMD $5.282bn debt in 2009. Intel will have no way to pay off debts, hopefully Nvidia will finally have the chance to acquire Intel to get x86 license to make Nvidia x86 CPU and write off Intel massive debts.
Nvidia are an add in board manufacture and will tank harder than Intel if worst happens. There is little chance Nvidia could survive an Intel collapse nevermind mind buy them and turn Intel around before they also collapse.
Hopefully Nvidia will have the chance to acquire Intel?
There is nothing hopeful about Nvidia acquiring them, if you think Intel are bad now for anti competitive practices, then I fear things will be 10 times worse.
Why would they collapse? Nvidia would eat Intel for breakfast. Don't see why'd they bother though, more money in printing AI and a bunch of VRAM on a PCB than making x86 CPUs.
Because Nvidia sell add in boards to system vendors. Nvidia will have nothing to add too. Intel is the alpha and omega.
"Who will ever need more than 640k of ram" IBM (640k ram - 384k rom).
It was the discovery of a flaw in x86 that was exploited to see more than 1024k
kids eh?