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Intel i9 13900KS or AMD Ryzen 7950X3D

Sorry to dig this old thread up again. With one thing and another I didn't get around to replacing the CPU.

I'm off next week and figure that will be an ideal time to do it.

Is the 7950X3D and 7800X3D still the best choice, I'm sort of leaning now towards the 7800X3D as I keep seeing that mentioned as the best gaming CPU. I don't quite understand what you have to do with the 7950X3D to get the most out of it for gaming otherwise I go for that.
 
Jase said:
7800X3D still the best choice, I'm sort of leaning now towards the 7800X3D as I keep seeing that mentioned as the best gaming CPU.
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Yep. For gaming, just get the 7800X3D and in a few years time when the 8800X3D (or whatever) is out, or AMD make a chip with the cache across the entire CPU, then get that instead.
 
Jase said:
Sorry to dig this old thread up again. With one thing and another I didn't get around to replacing the CPU.

I'm off next week and figure that will be an ideal time to do it.

Is the 7950X3D and 7800X3D still the best choice, I'm sort of leaning now towards the 7800X3D as I keep seeing that mentioned as the best gaming CPU. I don't quite understand what you have to do with the 7950X3D to get the most out of it for gaming otherwise I go for that.
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The 7950X3D is the fastest gaming CPU. However, you should only consider it over the slightly slower 7800X3D if you have a genuine use case for those extra 8 cores, whatever the workload be it gaming or applications.

The 7800X3D is plug and play gaming orientated. The 7950X3D may also require additional user effort and tuning to get additional performance from it to really edge it in front of the 7800X3D in gaming scenarios.

For me, it’s 7950X3D all day long and twice on Sundays as I love tuning, have gaming use cases for 16 cores, and want the overall fastest. For most people though, the 7800X3D makes more sense.

I don’t really consider Intel CPUs as a viable option due to the much higher power draw and temperatures, so I won’t comment on them further than that. We’ll have other active users here that will be able to better sing their virtues though.
 
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LtMatt said:
The 7950X3D is the fastest gaming CPU. However, you should only consider it over the slightly slower 7800X3D if you have a genuine use case for those extra 8 cores, whatever the workload be it gaming or applications.

The 7800X3D is plug and play gaming orientated. The 7950X3D may also require additional user effort and tuning to get additional performance from it to really edge it in front of the 7800X3D in gaming scenarios.

For me, it’s 7950X3D all day long and twice on Sundays as I love tuning, have gaming use cases for 16 cores, and want the overall fastest. For most people though, the 7800X3D makes more sense.

I don’t really consider Intel CPUs as a viable option due to the much higher power draw and temperatures, so I won’t comment on them further than that. We’ll have other active users here that will be able to better sing their virtues though.
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Thanks, I've crossed the Intel off the list so was only going to be the AMD options and by the looks of it the 7800X3D.

I'm not into tuning, I don't mind doing it after building the PC to get the best out of it but then I just want to forget about it. The thought of messing around for different games etc doesn't appeal.
This is purely a gaming PC, it would be running a game and probably having discord running in the background. Everything else I do on my Mac.
 
can someone plz explain what this actually means?

"The 7950X3D may also require additional user effort and tuning to get additional performance from it to really edge it in front of the 7800X3D in gaming scenarios"

thanks
 
hobib_ali said:
can someone plz explain what this actually means?

"The 7950X3D may also require additional user effort and tuning to get additional performance from it to really edge it in front of the 7800X3D in gaming scenarios"

thanks
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LukeFF is referring to his tweaking and tuning of the BIOS to maximise the gaming potential of the 7950X3D.

For those not in to tuning just do the following (I have a 7900X3D.)

1. Make sure Windows game bar is running and updated regularly
2. Make sure the latest official AMD chipset drivers are installed and kept updated
3. Use balanced mode in Windows power profiles

I have a 7900X3D and it is no harder than this to ensure it’s is running optimally.
 
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Wing-Man said:
So just what you should do for any cpu
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Essentially yes. There is no special trick to getting the best out of a 7900X3D or 7950X3D. Windows and the game bar should in theory optimise on the fly. Part of me thinks 7800X3D owners use this myth to claim their CPU is faster when in reality it isn’t. Recent improvements in CPU scheduling render this a non issue.
 
The power limits apply to all 7000 series and is a PBO negative power offset. So as it sits right now, all 7000 series CPUs are plug and play.
 
ICDP said:
LukeFF is referring to his tweaking and tuning of the BIOS to maximise the gaming potential of the 7950X3D.

For those not in to tuning just do the following (I have a 7900X3D.)

1. Make sure Windows game bar is running and updated regularly
2. Make sure the latest official AMD chipset drivers are installed and kept updated
3. Use balanced mode in Windows power profiles

I have a 7900X3D and it is no harder than this to ensure it’s is running optimally.
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i have never updated chipset drivers, I assume windows does that for you
Windows game bar? as in that XBOX app, thought thats an optional extra
Balanced mode? that doesnt apply to desktop PC's as its for laptops only i.e save power

I thought he meant like overclocking, I mean a CPU should be plug n play with no messing around with the settings as this can cause problems.

I so wanted to get a 7950x3d but i'm waiting on the successor to the X299 LGA2066 socket, I dont believe there is a Intel CPU that can match its number of pcie lanes
 
hobib_ali said:
i have never updated chipset drivers, I assume windows does that for you
Windows game bar? as in that XBOX app, thought thats an optional extra
Balanced mode? that doesnt apply to desktop PC's as its for laptops only i.e save power

I thought he meant like overclocking, I mean a CPU should be plug n play with no messing around with the settings as this can cause problems.

I so wanted to get a 7950x3d but i'm waiting on the successor to the X299 LGA2066 socket, I dont believe there is a Intel CPU that can match its number of pcie lanes
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Balanced mode is not just for laptops, it allows core parking, which is fundamental to getting full performance from a 7900X3D or 7950X3D. Updating chipset drivers and game bar is also important to ensure the latest game profiles and performance updates are used. These updates are not necessarily handled by Windows updates.

A PC is not completely install and forget. Frankly neither are consoles because sometimes an update may require manual intervention.
 
thesnowdog1971 said:
I think I'm going to wait until June to see what AMD announce at Computex.

I'm going to have the money to build a new PC in a couple of weeks, but I think I'm going to wait a bit.
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will be a long wait

from announcement to actual retail purchase will be a minimum or 6 months or more, so thats like at least a year...
 
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