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Intel introduces new quad-core chips

there is a line in that article that sums up pretty much the entire problem with quad core...

"Not even Hennessy and Patterson, much less the coders at the world's largest software company, can think of enough ways to keep all four cores busy"
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Valve are to release a patch this year for the source engine for multicore processing, Alan Wake is apparently designed to use multiple cores (more than 2 that is) and UT2007 as well I think. This year could well be the year of the quad. From a gaming point anyway.
 
I have no problem utilising all four cores.

With premier open and after effects open rendering real time effects on the time line, while

processing audio tracks in adobe audtion.

And mastering earlier editing projects to DVD in a Encore DVD.

All at the same time.

Don't know what all the fuss is about.

If you dont do this kind of thing then dont get one but moaning that they cant be used now is just quite frankly BS.

Re-encode uses 80% when backing up DVD's.

Have you done the cinebench test utilising all four cores?

Takes me 13 secs how long does it take a dual core? ;)
 
I think what everyone means by that (as you well knew) is that only a tiny fraction of people would actually do any of those - let alone all of them together

Currently very few people would have any use for a quad core (apart from waving their extremity)

.....until valve and everyone get their act together
 
FrankJH said:
I think what everyone means by that (as you well knew) is that only a tiny fraction of people would actually do any of those - let alone all of them together
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Then it simple...you just don't buy one.Thats it.

Currently very few people would have any use for a quad core (apart from waving their extremity)
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Point being?

Does that mean they should not be manufactured?

BS.




Just because others dont use the technology means it doesn't have to be knocked.

Its not the technologys fault and it has nothing to do with waving one's extremity.


There are many that use the quads and have never looked back.

It amazes me how many people say its useless tech when actually its not.

Its the users methods of computing in not utilising the cores not the chip itself.

If all you do is game then fine just don't go on about how you wouldn't use the cores.
 
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easyrider said:
Then it simple...you just don't buy one.Thats it.



Point being?

Does that mean they should not be manufactured?

BS.




Just because others dont use the technology means it doesn't have to be knocked.

Its not the technologys fault and it has nothing to do with waving one's extremity.


There are many that use the quads and have never looked back.

It amazes me how many people say its useless tech when actually its not.

Its the users methods of computing in not utilising the cores not the chip itself.

If all you do is game then fine just don't go on about how you wouldn't use the cores.
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in the general PC user market it is useless tech, totally useless in fact. we here are all performance users, we stopped being average joe pc owner a long time ago and i would be willing to bet performance users like us here on these forums account for less than 5% of the overall home pc market. untill games and office applications are properly coded to use quad core (and at the moment they barely use dual core) it will remain a redundant technology for the foreseeable future, and just because you own one and can find a way to use it wont make it any more main stream.
 
I intend on getting the Q6600 when I do a major upgrade at the beginning of Feb (may end up waiting longer depending on how available they are). I am under no illusions this CPU for the first 6-12 months of its life will show no better performance for my use than a dual core. Im going to uni in soon and thus will be living on the breadline for the next 3-4 years and I will need this CPU to last that long hence I think that quad core for people who need longevity out of their builds may well find it a good option to go for. If I could upgrade every year then no doubt I will have a standard dual core but for my purposes I think quad core is the best option.
 
locutus12 said:
in the general PC user market it is useless tech, totally useless in fact. we here are all performance users, we stopped being average joe pc owner a long time ago and i would be willing to bet performance users like us here on these forums account for less than 5% of the overall home pc market. untill games and office applications are properly coded to use quad core (and at the moment they barely use dual core) it will remain a redundant technology for the foreseeable future, and just because you own one and can find a way to use it wont make it any more main stream.
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That doesn't stop poeple driving their kids to school in 4 wheel drive cars.
In that environment its useless tech.

An explorer driving over the saraha desert its not.

Redundant technology?

BS.

Tech does not have to mainstream in order for it to be valid.
 
easyrider - Could you please post the CPU benchmarks you get in Cinebench if you get a moment. These are the numbers you get when it renders that picture of an archway, first on one core and then on all.

I use Cinema4D and and Cinebench is just about the only benchmark I pay attention to.

TIA
 
easyrider said:
That doesn't stop poeple driving their kids to school in 4 wheel drive cars.
In that environment its useless tech.

An explorer driving over the saraha desert its not.

Redundant technology?

BS.

Tech does not have to mainstream in order for it to be valid.
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i didnt say it was invalid i said it was presently redundant for main stream use, for the love of god buy a thesaurus and read it, you will find they are very different things.

as for the car analogy, well that was so stupid that im not even going to bother.
 
locutus12 said:
i didnt say it was invalid i said it was presently redundant for main stream use, for the love of god buy a thesaurus and read it, you will find they are very different things.

as for the car analogy, well that was so stupid that im not even going to bother.
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Its a sweeping statement to back up a pathetic excuse for an arguement.

Define the mainstream?

In that case 99.9 % of technology is redundant as you put it.

Your posts are a joke tinged with AMD fanboyism.

You would have a different view if the first quad core was by AMD i'd warrant.

I suggest you read a thesaurus as redundant is the wrong word to use in this context. :p
 
Interesting. Using dictionary.com comes up with...

1. characterized by verbosity or unnecessary repetition in expressing ideas; prolix: a redundant style.
2. being in excess; exceeding what is usual or natural: a redundant part.
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Curious that the first two definitions fit the present situation nicely.

Heh - dual core for me is pointless at the moment: I've got a Core Duo laptop from work at the moment and it's slower than my Athlon XP1700 at the moment. Because its storage solution isn't optimal and because it's got huge amount of remote admin stuff on it.

For my needs, my computer is fine. For gaming, it's rubbish, sure, but I don't have any time to play games.

When Valve finally do implement multi-core support, then it will be time for me to think about upgrading. Until then, I'll wait until software parallelism becomes useful to me as opposed to encoding, playing games, burning DVDs and watching a video at the same time for the sake of it.

But if somebody were to do that, then fine - good for them. I - personally - have issues with computers that chew up more than 400W and send the metre spinning like a tornado.
 
Seriously, easyrider and locutus - I wish you'd stop starting pointless, opinionated, petty arguments in these threads. Post something constructive or don't post at all.
 
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