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intel newbie Conroe vs Wolfdale

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why is a Wolfdale cheaper when it has more cache? Surely it should be more expensive? or are they slower per mhz than a Conroe?

Stuck on an AMD X2 4400 at the mo, starting to feel the need to upgrade...:o
 
Simply because conroe is eol and shop prices have gone stagnant, this always happens. Cost of manufacturing the wafer bares no real significance with regards to rrp.
 
Conroes are old and no longer made.

Wolfdales are new (current) and use a smaller manufacturing process so are cheaper, not to mention Intel has been slashing their prices quite a bit since the introduction of the C2D line
 
No, Wolfdale is faster.

What in? X2 4400+ (esp an overclocked one) is still pretty decent.

my 4400 is one of the first batches (paid like £500 for it), it did 2400 at first, however its now at default of 2200 and wont even go 100mhz faster. Its on a Asus A8nSLI premium with 2gig corsair DDR500, which is also loosing speed as it gets older, its running at DDR315 (333 setting). The system has been at full load (Boinc) since built, and it has taken its toll. Next system i probably wont run boinc anymore...

It also has a Nvidia 7800gtx 256mb ram, but im currently testing my friends (ChAIn3D) 8800GTX OC2 768mb to see if its part of the fault with his system... Its not a problem seems totally fine for me, and its got me drooling for more power its fantastic! :mad:

So i aint CPU limited then?
 
in my opinion

dont spend a penny if you can hold off a few months.

when intel bring in next gen, and nvidia/ati bring their knew gear out in a month or so.

you'll pick stuff up your drooling at for buttons.

the real thing is, the games...and they drive the need for speed.
 
Yeah but he will get much less for his existing kit as well if he waits. It's all pro rata and there are bargains to be had already

I just sold my AMD 4200+ dual core socket 939, dfi expert board and corsair 2 x 1gb memory plus coolermaster aquagate watercooled setup (pants really ;)) for £200 in total.

I picked up the following:

Q6600 VID 2.5v 2nd hand
2 x 2gb corsair 6400 4-4-4-12 ddr2 new
ABit ip35pro 2nd hand
various 2nd hand watercooling including swiftech d5 pump, danger den cpu block (not the best but cheap), double rad, 4 x xilence fans, reservoir, tubing, rad mount, fuzion gpu block for my g92 gts, ram heatsinks (new)

total spend £385.00

Total upgrade cost only £185. To be fair it would have been less but for the extra cost of going from 2gb to 4gb and water cooling the graphics card. Without those it would have only cost me approx £100 to upgrade.

I was tempted to wait but then I never would have got £200 for my old setup so would probably cost about the same to upgrade.

So if I was the op, I'd upgrade everything except maybe the gfx as new ones out next month and will make little difference to the 2nd value of the 7800gtx.

As far as cpu limited goes, then yes you would be if you had a better graphics card.

Going from my 4200+ x2 running at 3ghz to the Q6600 running at 3Ghz (graphics card the same) I gained 5000 points in 3dmark06 and 11 fps (from 38 to 49 at 1280 x 1024 on high) in Crysis so the cpu was obviously holding me back and yours at 2.2Ghz would be even more so.
 
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Thats exactly the way I upgrade :) I think it’s worth upgrading just before your hardware starts to really lose its 2nd hand value. I’ve always netted a large chunk from my old gear when I upgrade regularly.
 
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